Re: Zooey's vows.

Dennis Bretz (chrestomathy@yahoo.com)
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:14:34 -0700 (PDT)

This is from memory, so it might be right...

However innumberable beings are, I vow to save them.
However inexhaustible the passions, I vow to
extinguish them.
However immeasurable the Dharmas, I vow to master
them.
However incomparable the Bhudda-truth, I vow to attain
it.

Usually followed by "Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on
me."

DB
Lawrence, Kansas




--- Jake McHenry <seymour@ktis.net> wrote:
> Can someone please help me, yet again, with the vows
> Zooey always muttered
> aloud or internally before eating.
> I don't have a copy handy as I am at work and need
> them almost desparately.
> Thans.
> -Jake
> www.supermanytime.com
> "High Culture for Low Brows."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor Cameron <my_colours@hotmail.com>
> To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>
> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: banning CATCHER
> 
> 
> >
> >OK, Cam,
> >
> >I'm with you the whole way except your knee-jerk
> use of the term "Facism".
> >Facism is a form of government based on economic
> expansion through military
> >expansion.  Although Facists have burned books, in
> fact, most book burnings
> >have been done by non-facists, including good,
> old-fashioned capitolist
> >American chistians.
> >I'm not sure why I felt the need to defend facism,
> but, well,
> >There it is, then.
> >Thor
> >
> >
> >>This all reminds me of an item I once read in
> `Mad' magazine (yes, as a
> >>true postmodernist even I go lowbrow occasionally)
> which was a picture of
> a
> >>teenage boy salivating over a copy of `Catcher in
> the Rye' with a caption
> >>like `Do those people who ban books really believe
> kids are going to head
> >>straight to their local libraries for a bit of
> titillation'? Book banning
> >>is akin to book burning which is akin to fascism.
> I've seen the moral
> >>minority at work in my own country via the
> `Lolita' crap (which in any
> case
> >>was all a stunt to get a conservative independent
> MP onto the government's
> >>side anyway) and it ain't pretty. Still, like
> Jason said it inspires you
> to
> >>read a helluva lot of fine literature you may not
> have thought of
> otherwise
> >>(:
> >>
> >>Camille
> >>verona_beach@geocities.com
> >>@ THE ARTS HOLE
> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442
> >>@ THE INVERTED FOREST
> http://www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest
> >>
> >>
> >> > > Hello, all.
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to come out in defense of the
> reoccuring plan to ban
> >>CITR.
> >>  It
> >> > > is a dangerous book.  Nevermind the languge;
> there's worse on
> >>prime-time tv.
> >> > >   In fact, it is dangerous because of its
> subtlety and underlying
> >>themes.
> >> > > The same people who want to ban Salinger are
> the ones who find
> >>independant
> >> > > thinking frightening.  People shouldn't be
> put through the ringer of
> >>new
> >> > > ideas and strange thoughts.
> >> > > This is the same group that hated Wycliffe,
> because knowledge in the
> >>hands
> >> > > of the public is....  unpredictable.
> >> > > We need to support the idea of banning.  Not
> banning per se, just the
> >>idea
> >> > > of it.  Do you think more than a handful of
> people would have read
> the
> >> > > Bible's English trans. if the church hadn't
> fought it tooth-and-nail?
> >> > > Thank god, (with a small g) for groups that
> directly affect my life
> >>due
> >>to
> >> > > their close proximity to me, like Coloradans
> for Family Values.
> >>Groups
> >>like
> >> > > this pointed my way as a youth towards books
> that I may have
> otherwise
> >> > > neglected, thanks to their banning wish list.
> >> > > The old saying "It takes all kinds" is so
> true: these bizarros work
> as
> >>a
> >> > > near-perfect inverse barometer.
> >> > > Thank you, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, et
> al., you freaks have
> shown
> >>me
> >> > > the light, or at least where I should be
> looking for it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thor
> >> >
> >> > Have to agree with Thor on this one.  In High
> School I considered the
> >> > banned book list my summer reading list.  In my
> high school we also had
> >>a
> >> > pretty crafty English teacher who had the list
> posted on the wall.  She
> >> > kept the books in strong box in her closet. 
> (she used to like to show
> >>the
> >> > covers to the class)  Every year she'd recruit
> a few seniors to spread
> >>the
> >> > rumor that the combonation was 12-34-02 for the
> lock.  Inevitably
> people
> >> > stole books from the box.  I stole _1984_.
> (isn't it funny our school
> >> > banned this book)  She later told me she has
> tons of copies of these
> >>books
> >> > in her garage at home that she gets from flea
> markets and the like.
> She
> >> > hopes they get stolen.  Thank you Mrs. Hornick,
> for understanding
> simple
> >> > teen psychology.
> >> >
> >> > -j
> >
> >
>
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