Re: Salinger turns to the Dark Side
Thor Cameron (my_colours@hotmail.com)
Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
Meant to add this to my last post:
Much like Stranger in a St.... and Star Wars, Salinger's stories bring more
meaning to other stories. I'm in the middle of Hapworth right now, first
time reading, & there are a few things that he used from Ocean Full of
Bowling Balls. Also, of course, it brings more meaning to other Glass
stories.
I'm reading it like this:
I cannot, cannot, cannot read this thing from a 7 yr old. Forget it,
absolutely no friggin, no, no, no friggin way. I don't care WHO this kid is
no, no, no, no, no way.
So, I'm reading a letter dictated by a 7 yr old to an older person with a
free-flowing pen. Having said that, I can, indeed, accept most, not quite
all, but most of the sentiments from a child, just not the eloquence.
Anyway, I love how he's directly referring to things from Seymore &
Bananafish, though they've not happened yet. Some is simple genius
guesswork, some is Teddy-style insight. Not entirely comfortable with that
yet, but it still joins the Glass stories quite nicely.
Thor
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Camille Scaysbrook wrote:
> > Jim wrote:
> > > 1. The original movies weren't all that great artistically to begin
>with.
> > > They're melodrama and intended for fun.
> >
> > Yes, I agree totally. I went to see Star Wars with a critical eye when
>it
> > was re-released and I thought it was a piece of crap. However, I went to
> > see it again with a Saturday Matinee eye and came out thoroughly
> > exhilarated and enjoyed it totally - it was a good story with resonances
> > for everybody and it was a whole lot of fun. The Phantom Menace I
>thought
> > was a lousy lumbering story and not very much fun at all. Characters
>acted
> > as if they were working off a cue sheet full of plot-turns. Who believes
> > Anakin and Princess Amilada are going to get it on for any other reason
> > that the plot dictates it? Not me.
>
> Okay, I can't defend Episode I, because, well, I hated it. The only way
>that movie will be any good is if Episode II sheds strange light on it,
>showing that all the problems Lucas created actually enhance the
>plot/world. But as for the original SW and family, my critical eye sees a
>lot going on, a lot of perfection.
> The first thing is Luke Skywalker as Joseph Camble's "Hero of a
>Thousand Faces," the theory that ever culture has a myth hero, and they
>are all basically the same archetype. Luke makes a pretty good one (even
>though he whines all the time, but that shows his age and maturity). Has
>a lot going on. The major thematic question is, "Will Luke make the leap
>of faith necessary to embrace the force, and save the day." Sometimes
>hero films find their answer in the hero trusting himself/herself, but
>this is strangely the hero forgeting himself. It's very Zen for a
>american popular movie.
> Also the POV is great. The story is essentially that of two droids.
>What other movie tells the story of two machines? And there are some
>masterful scenes defining these two characters. For instance, when R2 is
>blown away in the X-wing trench run the camera flashes to the control
>room. Luke reports "I've lost R2." C3P0, even though Anthony Daniels
>(actor inside) has no movable facial features, clearly shows concern. The
>camera shot contrasts Leia's complete lack of concern, her stone face.
>Machines with emotions, people without. Wonderful.
> Han Solo's set up as the Atheistic counter point to Obi-wan's Theism.
>Wonderful. Some of the dialog in this film is incredible. "Hoaky
>religions and ancient weapons, are nothing compared to blaster at your
>side. Ain't no 'force' that governs my life. Just a bunch of simple
>tricks and nonsense." Incredible. What other SciFi film has this meaty
>a dialog. Now think of the dramas that bring up similar heavy issues as a
>sub-text. I could probably count them on my fingers if i could think of
>one.
> Okay, I could go on and on about SW, but just for the sake of things
>I'll throw in a perfect slice of dialog. I mean perfect in the most
>literary of senses. In _Empire_ Han is about to be lowered into the
>carbonite freezing chamber. Leia is there with Chewy. She and Han have
>been antagonistic the whole film. He's been giving her strong, assertive,
>swashbuckler comeon lines, and she's rebuffed him -- "scruffy looking nerf
>herder." So, Han's about to be lowered inside. She calls to him "I love
>you." (trite) He replies, "I know." Perfection, Perfection Perfection.
>In two words Harison Ford shows Han's supreme confidence and his complete
>love for her all in the same. It's in the inflection. It's in the movie.
>It is the best reply i've ever heard to "I love you." This is a SciFi
>film! What the heck is it doing worrying about love?
> In interaction between characters, the fullness of characters is
>incredible. Again in _Empire_ they are in the holding cell. Chewy grabs
>Lando and starts choaking him, roaring all the time. Leia leans right
>into Lando, while he's saying "You don't understand." Leia replies, "Oh,
>we understand, don't we Chewy." The empathy with Chewy is great. Also it
>hints that she cars a lot about Han, but doesn't explicity show it. It
>show her irrational mean side. I think what I love about Leia's character
>so much is that from her very escape from the holding block in SW she's
>been anything but the typical princess. She's rude, whitty, assertive and
>strong headed. She's yelling at her rescuers. "Into the garbage shoot,
>fly boy." She's weilding a rifle, taking out Stormtroopers, she's
>standing up to darth vader and gov. tarken.
>
> Cam, I've spent most of my life trying to move things about the room
>with my mind. SW is the late 20th century American Mythology. It's given
>me one of the only understandings I have of faith. It's given me hero's
>and people to emulate. It has wisdom that I've let influence my life.
>It's the classic struggle, the epic. I can't think of a movie that's
>affected me more, how i think, what my value system is. The Zen motif,
>the pacifism, the struggle, the discipline. It's all in there if you look
>for it. But yes, it's a great Matinee as well.
>
>May the Force be with you, always.
>
>-jay
>
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