Re: try the real ideas

From: James Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu>
Date: Wed Mar 05 2003 - 17:07:05 EST

Response below:

Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE wrote:

>No argument but who is guilty of over generalizations here? It seems that
>it is the same 'body' of theologians that have latched on to Jacques are the
>ones who did the over-rationalizations in the first place. Balance, the
>balance of that worn out fiddler player on the roof.
>Daniel
>
>
I can't accept this as an answer -- it's assuming everyone who adopts or
is influenced by Derrida allows that influence in the same way and for
the same reason. Some fit your description, some are quite the opposite
-- over rationalizations (not quite sure what that exactly refers to) is
just what they're trying to avoid.

>No quite the opposite, I am saying that, in the modern dialogue, very little
>is explained very well. Its as if Derrida is the language version of the
>Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The principle does not keep us from
>knowing, it only forces us to ask our questions carefully, and knowing the
>strengths and limitations of those answers. It seems that it is the
>penchant of some (not necessarily on this list) to focus on the limitation
>side, seeing it as a license for bedlam. Some things do have to be accepted
>without specific reasons but there is often collaborating reasons, stadium
>walls of the ball park conclusion. I think (jump in to correct me John G.)
>the failure to admit is one of John's grinding stones.
> Daniel
>
This is basically a complaint about the difficulty of Derrida's
language. That's been addressed ad nauseum too...no sense repeating it all.

>Again, I think Derrida has made some valid points but it seems he pushed
>some of them to far, at least his latest garbled musings seem to be an
>admission of that. Concerning diehards, I am not limiting my egging on to
>the d word but like has been oft stated, the Author/meaning discussion. The
>d topic just popped up as one of many of the hydra's heads.
>Daniel
>

Eh, maybe he did. So let's try to identify the valid points and see
what they say, then, hmm? If he pushed them too far, perhaps we don't
have to?

Jim

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