RE: Try attacks

From: Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE <daniel.yocum@Peterson.af.mil>
Date: Thu Mar 06 2003 - 16:49:43 EST

Well, now, that's the point, isn't it? But if one has a thought,
unquoted, "cooked up" as you say, one should be able to support it,
shouldn't one? Factually, anecdotally -- it really doesn't matter, just
as long as it's convincing to the reader.
Cecilia

Very reminiscent of C. S. Lewis's Old Knock.
Daniel

Actually, one of my kids asked me the other day why I always wanted her to
come up with her own arguments. Why couldn't I just tell her what I
wanted to read? You see, Daniel, the problem in the average classroom
isn't stifling creativity, it's fostering it. We live in a nation of
Stepford children. And, the only way to avoid completing that cycle is to
force people to not only think, but understand *why* they think it. And
hopefully, they will be able to convince me, their reader, to think in a
new way. Otherwise, you've got a bunch of parrots repeating the same
tired arguments.
Cecilia

I hear these war stories every day, my wife is a Teacher also. She calls
them the Nintendo and Play Station generation. It's not creativity or
thinking skills, it's inability to focus and motivation for her brood. She
has a knack in getting troubled uncooperative kids going in the classroom
so, naturally, she gets them all in her classroom.
Daniel

> And your post says?
I should think it was obvious.
Cecilia

You intended to mean something? I thought Kafka was Obvious, (shrugged
shoulders and hands held out waist high).
Daniel

> I am only an eng-gineer and we know what you think of them.
Ah, but some of my best friends are engineers.
> All English teachers think that of them. Not that it is untrue.
Can you back that up with statements from real, live English teachers?
Cecilia

I seem to remember an English teacher slapping me Down in a previous post on
this same general topic with details about building houses and ivory towers;
that's one: my wife; that's two: and my three English course Professors in
college (English 101, 102, and Tech writing) to be fair the feelings of
contempt were mutual with two of them; that's three, four and five. All
this will be properly foot noted in my final draft Ms. Baader. Oh, do you
grade on a curve? I can help you calculate one standard deviation if you
do. (that is what they think of engineers, at least one standard
deviation.)
Daniel

(By the way, before I was an English teacher, it wouldn't have been at all
unusual to find me with a multimeter in one hand, a deutsch connector in
the other, trying to figure out what was wrong with the machine in front
of me. I found, however, that I preferred kids to corporations.)
Cecilia

Are you talking about your Husband? Kids are corporations, just more
susceptible to hostile take overs. My wife believes that (your) stuff too.
Daniel

(Oh, and I'd also like to point out the supreme irony of the Subject line,
just in case anyone's missed it. It's the English teacher in me that's
able to spot these things.)
Cecilia

The dull knife says, huh? Did you say something Ms. Baader?
Daniel

PS Please no notes home, I already don't get to watch enough TV.
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