Subject: RE: More problems....
From: Sasha Stone (sstone@primenet.com)
Date: Sun Mar 02 1997 - 14:58:15 GMT
God I sure hope not. But it is true that Holden and Travis both want to
protect the innocents from the scum of the world. I think it is dangerous
to see outsiders like Travis as heroes, though, with as much compassion
and sweetness as Holden has. I think it's dangerous because the
alienation bleeds into the extreme - the scary psychos who carry around
Catcher in their backpocket before they shoot a celebrity. I think Travis
has good intentions but ultimately he's a pretty scary guy. I don't have
time to properly respond to this but it's an interesting idea and I hope I
can write more later.
Sasha
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Jim Venturi wrote:
> Kerry,
>
> Is Travis Bickle sane? Is the movie have really an anti-Vietnam
> statement? Does Nam drive Bickle insane and like many stories, we have
> created something that comes back to bite us. He goes after the
> politician (the phoney) because of what they did re: Nam. This is my
> own theory.
>
> Do you think Travis Bickle is similar to Holden Caufield. I mean his
> relationship with Jodie Foster and all.
>
> Jim
>
> ----
> "After a while the kids from the neighborhood would start carrying my
> mother's groceries home for her... Do you know why they did it? ... It
> was out of RESPECT" -- Henry Hill
>
> >----------
> >From: Kerry O'Keeffe[SMTP:cb186@city.ac.uk]
> >Sent: Sunday, March 02, 1997 12:27 PM
> >To: bananafish@cassatt.Mass-USR.COM
> >Subject: More problems....
> >
> >
> >Sasha and all,
> > thanks for the reply. You assertion that Salinger finds the whole
> >thing grotesque I agree with entirely and this is maybe the reason I find
> >Vonnegut that much easier to swallow. Vonnegut's use of black humour to
> >sugar the pill is what makes his work so endearing, whereas at times I
> >find reading Salinger is hard work.
> >
> > Judging by your other messages you have alot to say about the Gen X
> >thing. Speaking as an English outsider I tend to equate this with the
> >whole slacker mularky (please put me straight if this is not the case). I
> >can see how salinger gets tied in with the whole thing, however, I am
> >always wary of people who make a tidy sum out of peddling disillusionment
> >and disaffection from ivory towers e.g. Winona Ryder (oops!). I have read
> >the Douglas Coupland book and something bothers me about the message put
> >across. I cant see what hope there is for the next lot if everyone sick
> >of the way things are just drops out and cultivates their own private
> >World. Its the easiest thing going to become cynical and aloof when
> >things are getting you down, and this is coming from someone often accused
> >of having the selfsame traits. I really dont want to sound
> >self-opinionated about all this, but it is something I feel strongly
> >about.
> >
> >BTW I havent actually read Eliot's Wasteland, but now have a copy to hand,
> >so Ill let you know how I get on.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Kerry.
> >
> >P.S. I thimk, therefore I am.
> >
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> >-
> >One of these days I'm gonna get organiz
> > iz
> > e
> > d
> > -Travis Bickle
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