'Why did Seymour >do it? - the fall in Room 507? From Teddy's point of view, what would he >say? Teddy wouldn't have done it. How would Seymour have explained it? >Couldn't he just hold on? Say it ain't so. > I think Seymour could have held on--and he could have very happily held on, which was exactly why he didn't hold on. His happy life was in the way of his dharma, or spiritual mission. I disagree about Teddy; I honestly believe that Teddy would have killed himself without much remorse if he believed that his life was getting in the way of progressing toward Nirvana. Teddy, fortunately for him (or perhaps unfortunately, depending on what you think of his philosophy) had no Muriel or Charlotte or vast family of geniuses--he had no emotional attachment to this life, and in fact found it restrictive and a little irritating. I think if he caught himself beginning to truly enjoy himself, so much that he began to fear death or feel afraid of losing what he had in this life, Teddy would have killed himself. After all, while he may not have actively committed suicide on the big boat, he expected his death, knew its details, and he walked into it without any reserve whatsoever, only mentioning it briefly in his journal with the vaguest note of indifference. UNLESS, of course, you think that he foretold the details of his death, immediately previous to it, to that man on the boat in the unconscious hope that the man would recognize it as prophecy and do something to stop it--which the man may have been doing when he ran after Teddy just as Teddy was dying. That adds a lot more tension and tragedy to the piece, but it seems to me that Salinger was Above such tactics and used the story of Teddy, as Scottie mentioned (without direct reference) as a sort of didactic personal forum for his own dogmas. (Personally--and to satisfy ol' Jerome, who is ceaselessly looking to me for advice on his craft--I would have ended the story after Teddy wrote in his journal...I could have done without his sermon. The dialogue is excellent and the characters eccentric and Salingerian enough to make a great story--a great story that was, in my opinion, soured with Teddy's pontifications. Anyway.) Still, even without the deliberate tension, even if Teddy in his consciousness and unconsciousness truly awaited death indifferently, if not anxiously, I think there is an inherent tension that exists in Salinger's tales of Teddy and Seymour, and I'm sure Salinger was himself very aware of it. The tension: that Salinger is a very very very American writer, writing about very nonwestern philosophies of death and the way in one should live his life--it is the tension between American characters and their coming to terms with their Eastern religions, or rather Eastern characters coming to terms with their American environment. In the example of Holden, the American is more predominant than the Buddhist, but there is enough Buddhism to cause conflict and confusion and ultimately despair--and in Seymour and Teddy, there is more Buddhism than American-ism, which creates a tension that could be seen as a Sophoclean (is that a word?) tragedy of man seeking to escape his destiny, or conversely as a more triumphant biblical tale, in the vein of Job and Samson and even Christ, where the hero wins his spiritual reward in the face of Earthly tragedy, confusion, and misdirection. Wow, I'm on a roll--at least until Scottie and Jim get ahold of this post. For tonight, however, I'll end here and bask in the warmth of my own, heh-heh, brilliance. Whatever. Good-night, folks. Don't let the bedbug stains on the sheet lose the trial for you. (Obscure "Pretty Mouth" reference...please excuse me, I think that's my cue.) exit Brendan. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com