Subject: Re: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
From: Cecilia Baader (ceciliabaader@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu May 09 2002 - 12:41:45 EDT
--- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> Don't really know how to further respond to you. You asked me to check
> my own department in reply to a post in which I described
> my own department
> :).
No, Jim, I said to check the makeup with regards to full professors v.
assistant professors v. adjunct professors and lecturers. I think you'll
find I'm right. It's certainly true of the three English departments of
my own experience.
I can spout facts at you all day long. For instance, in my own English
Department, six of the full tenured professors are men, while only three
are women. Two assistant professors are men, and one is a woman. Three
of the adjunct lecturers are men, while eight are women. Add it up and
you'll see that although the women outnumber the men in my department in
numbers similar to those you reported, you'll find that few of them have
managed to find tenure. I'll let you work out the percentages for
yourself.
And Wisconsin is famous for its institutional liberalism, too.
Nothing's more tiresome than a woman whining about inequality, but it's
not usually the men in a department who notice these things.
How did we get on this discussion?
> I think it's a mistake to too carefully distinguish between HS teachers
> and college level academics -- who trains the HS teachers? :).
Other High School teachers and Department Heads. College education
classes have little to do with curriculum ten years down the line, and
it's not the newly graduated teachers who decide what books to teach.
> I was told that one institution in So. Cal. hired a guy fresh out
> of grad school to be a DEAN of all things --
> simply because the institution was located in a densely hispanic area
> and he was a competent hispanic scholar.
Yes, but everyone knows that they're all nuts in Southern California.
KIDDING. Kidding. No hate mail from California, please.
> PC obsession, we both recognize, is widely disseminated. To think it
> doesn't affect the makeup of faculty and admininistration is a bit
> silly...
I never suggested that. However, I'm tired of people claiming that
because of political correctness and affirmative action, equality is a
reality, because it isn't. It isn't. It is not.
Regards,
Cecilia.
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