Subject: Re: Franny and Lane as pilgrims
From: Rob Riss (sdrelist@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 29 2000 - 00:31:45 GMT
Sofia,
Thanks for your perspective, that's one reason i submitted it, was to get
others' views on the story. And again, there are always many explanations
to everything, none being exclusively correct. I actually thought about
something similar to your argument...
>she simply does not
>dare to expose herself in letting him know how much she appreciates
>something that he would instanly dismiss.
and this is the passage i came across...
"But the thing is, the marvellous thing is, when you first start doing it,
you don't even have to have faith in what you're doing. I mean, even if
you're terribly embarassed about the whole thing, it's perfectly allright."
now that i think about it, if she was embarassed when she was talking
silently at the end of the novel, this passage could apply to that scene.
Otherwise, it could apply to telling Lane about the book no matter what he
thought. Or it could apply to both.
Of course, your explanation is as right as mine, this is just another.
-rob at CSU
>From: Sofia Helgegren <i98sofhe@island.liu.se>
>Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>Subject: Re: Franny and Lane as pilgrims
>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2000 23:57:21 +0100
>
>Hey Rob, and welcome!
>
>I totally disagree. I believe Lane is a self-centered cynicist who
>would never understand Franny's fascination with the Pilgrim book,
>which is why she downplays its importance to her, she simply does not
>dare to expose herself in letting him know how much she appreciates
>something that he would instanly dismiss. Franny has a deep emotional
>crisis and Lane concentrates on his essay and getting to sleep with
>her. In my humble opinion.
>
>I haven't been on the list for too long either, Rob, but this angle
>was certainly new to me, and I enjoyed your perspective, although I do
>not agree with you. And please note that I by no means try to express
>my views as being the full and complete truth that no one can
>question....I just feel opinionated today :)
>
>/Sofia
>
>-------------------
> > Hey guys,
>
> > It seems that Lane feels about his great paper the same way Franny
>feels
> > about her green book. Both of them try to show eachother the
>brilliance of
> > their paper/book and the other has no intention of listening. When
>Lane is
> > describing his paper to an uninterested Franny, in detail, (p.12,13)
>Franny
> > interrupts to comment about her Martini (x) and to ask Lane for his
> > olive(xx). Lane denounces the paper as "nothing world-shaking"(12)
>to kind
> > of downplay it(xxx) and avoid bragging, but then continues to boast
>how
> > great it is. After this Frannie goes to the bathroom, and when she
>comes
> > back, it is her turn. She twice describes the book as
> > "just something"(8) and "this little book in my bag?"(32) in her way
>to
> > downplay it(xxx). She describes on p.35 about what the pilgrim
>does,
> > something like "go on adventures, and show people how to prey".
>Immediately
> > after this, Lane inturrupts to remind her of his paper, as if
>subconsiously
> > reminded that he would like to go on adventures. During the time
>Frannie is
> > describing the book to an uninterested Lane, he interrupts to
>comment about
> > his frog legs twice (x) and to ask Franny if she wants her butter
>(xx).
>
> > Sorry if this wasn't interesting or anything new. I would like any
>opinions
> > or other comments!
> >
> > -rob at CSU
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