When Martin said to himself: `...To think that I'm actually being PAID to sit around and talk about books and poetry with these great people - I'd gladly do it for free..', he was unwittingly admitting there was something rather phoney about the whole setup. Chatting about books is something civilised people do over a dinner table, over a few drinks, or even through the medium of a mailing list. The profession of teachers is one of the shameful professions - like that of social workers, of bank robbers or of psychiatrists - attracting, by its nature, the very last people who should be practising it & existing - like the others - for the benefit of the practitioners rather than their clients. The gain for a teacher is a captive audience of impressionable minds (almost certainly over-impressionable if it's an English class...) that he is paid - modestly but reliably - to fill up with his own private & neurotic preoccupations, using as his pretext & piggy-back work by elementally more gifted & harder working people. Leaving aside Diego's distaste for my particular sense of humour - his own is not immediately apparent - I assure him that my advice to Nicola was completely serious. I really do think that university courses in English are (like most non-technical instruction) a complete waste of time. It so happens that Ted Hugh's example was peculiarly topical but that doesn't detract from its relevance. He was speaking & acting for many of us, & especially those who long to write & enjoy living English - not just regurgitate it in dreary dollops for the benefit of other prisoners in the academic galley. My congratulations to Paul for having ruffled - at last - Jim's Christian forbearance. How refreshing to find a healthy fuck off behind all those jovial heh, heh, hehs.... It hasn't been seen before - certainly not in my time on the list. Except, Matt, that I don't really have time for the hammer, the thongs & the 8 inch nails, are you really serious in your plea for urbane, intelligent conversation ? Doesn't your heart sink when you open yet another earnest disquisition on the Australian Post Structuralist view of Cosmic Blandness ? I must admit mine only really quickens when I open one of Dr Kosusko's little packages & recognise the glint of the stiletto or hear the distant plonk when one of my own pebbles reaches the bottom of the well. Art & the lively consideration of art stops being serious the moment respectful solemnity appears on the scene. Scottie B.