I've been thinking a lot about the whole idea of childhood and sexuality in Salinger lately ... something came from that idea I proposed that Holden is both attracted and repulsed by Sally's childlike quality - which of course, is a conundrum. I've always seen a fairly clear lineage from Sally Hayes to Muriel (although you could argue that Muriel at least has some redeeming qualities). Could it be that Seymour just went one more step off the edge of that crazy cliff than Holden? That he *realised* that this is a conundrum - that the only people he could love were child-adults, while realising that these child-adults were deficient people? Is this the realisation he had comparing Sybil and the elevator woman's feet? Anyone got ideas on this? J J R wrote: > I think Matt's description of Muriel's wealth deserved more credit than I > gave it--not filthy rich, but upper middle class, at least. And I think > Muriel wasn't Totally vacant--she sure understood her mother, at least. > But that just may be a mother/daughter thing going there. > > The elevator scene--I think he played with Sybil's feet, and by extension > expected the woman on the elevator to pay attention to his feet--treating > him as he treated the child. He tried to retort by using "adult" > language, but he was being too sincere for the adult woman--that was only > something he could pull off with Sybil. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest