> This isn't a debate it is a shouting contest. Goodbye. If you're still there - please know the difference between an argument and a discussion. As I see it, you argue when you know you're right. You discuss when you think you're right but you're willing to entertain other options. Arguments are tedious and unproductive. Discussions are enriching and educational. You may even learn something if you're willing to see the other side of the debate, whether you agree with it or not. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest