Actually, what we call "modern" started shortly after the turn of the century. Modernism as a philosophy started toward the end of the last century, and "post-modernism" (as a word) started back in the 20s. The distancing of meaning from authorial intent started with the formalists back in, eh, what? The 20s? They weren't called formalists then, but called that by later writers. Formalism was really nailed down and explained in the 40s, I think. So, eh, what's the point of talking about the last 50 years? What are you trying to say? That meaning has degenerated in our society, as well as art? The people you are talking about--the people who really started all this--were born in the 1800s. What really amazes me is that Scottie brought up Joyce--ever read Finnegan's Wake? Try making sense out of that :) It was published in the 40s. Tell ya what, I'll make it easier for you. Read Ulysses. It was published in the 30s. That's over 50 years old, it should make sense. Right? :) Jim On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:03:49 +1100 Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com> writes: > >> i know i said good bye and i swear this is it. but i had to respond. > >> No, i have never looked back on anything I wrote and decided that it >had >> different meaning. The fun of reading is enjoying the story, the >> lession is the meaning. Oh, yeah, Salinger isn't exactly the most >> responsive type. He doesn't even give out an address to write to. >Your >> view is fashionable today, maybe not fifty years ago, but today it >is. >> Look at modern art > >Uhhmm ... doesn't `modern' *mean* `less than fifty years old' ??? > >Camille >verona_beach@geocities.com >@ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 >@ THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]