Thankyou Jon ... I won't quote your e-mail because hopefully everyone read it but I think it summed up what a lot of us were trying to say. Sadly, I think as Will ascertained, I think Scottie has left the building, new-ideas wise. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest