In a message dated 11/2/99 6:32:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Akane574@cs.com writes: << i just started reading notes from the underground my friend has a copy she hates it, but i love it so far -Lauren- >> It's a wonderful statement for the individual against large organized systems. I think Dostoevsky had Russian socialist movements in mind as well, but he would have applied his statements equally to the Catholic Church... Jim