On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:05:15 -0500 (EST) AntiUtopia@aol.com wrote: > > I do think Muriel's been sold a bit short. She's vain and a little bit > shallow, course. Maybe even a Whole Lot Shallow. But let's remember she > continued to believe in our Dearly Beloved Seymour long past the point the > truly shallow and stupid people of this world (a.k.a. her mother) would do > so. In some ways I think she "understood" Seymour better than a lot of those > around him. > > I think part of Seymour's problem may have been getting past the banal facade > over that "understanding." I think that's part of the point of F and Z. The > "fat lady" is Christ. Realizing the holiness of the banal (not the banality > of the holy, however) is necessary for the Seymours, Zooeys, Frannys and > Holdens to be able to survive in this world. Seymour couldn't do it, so > BANG.... > > Jim Of course if you love Seymour and despise Muriel she is being sold short. Let's not forget, he married her. Not out of despair, either. There is a wonderful passage from his diary in RHRBC where he speaks of WHY he loves Muriel, about how she wants to go to the hotel lobby and ask if her husband has picked up the mail, and how he feels that she and her mother fill his pockets with endless invisible cosmetics, for which he feels immensely grateful but which he doesn't know what to do with. I think it's important to remember the overwhelming tenderness with which that diary is written when reading "Bananafish". Muriel isn't perfect. Maybe she's not one of the Seymours or Frannys or Zooeys. But how many of us are? Thanks, Tim, for bringing up a genuinely interesting topic. Love, Lucy-Ruth ---------------------- LR Pearson, Arts 99 lp9616@bristol.ac.uk