Re: a quibble about 'for esme'

Yes Tim, you were being perfectly clear to Scottie...but I think a
generation gap was at work here. I've never known a housewife (in the
Muriel not-a-real-housewife sense of the word) to live as you described.

Just didn't move in those circles and by the 70s, I think, those circles
were narrower than they had been 30 years before.

The meaning of your text resided outside the language of your text --
namely yours and Scottie's experience, which was different from mine.
"Housewife" has never meant anything to me other than a married woman who
didn't work outside the home.

Don't get me wrong, though, I like your definitions very much.

Jim

Tim O'Connor wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 07:07:03PM -0000, Scottie Bowman wrote:
>
> > Oh for goodness sake, Tim, stop apologising
> > to Rovira about your perfectly understood use
> > of the word 'housewife'.
>
> And there I was, thinking perhaps that I was the only one who knew
> what I was saying. Good to know I was not unclear.
>
> > If this kind of miserable bean slicing is what
> > passes for 'reverence' for the text, then I'm out
> > of here.
>
> No reverence here. I was simply clarifying. I don't give a flying
> hoot about "reverence" for any text. In fact, people who have the
> misfortune to know me would likely attest to how little reverence I
> have for anything. Except, maybe, a small handful of creative, often
> miserable, souls. Some of them might be familiar here, some not, but
> like JDS, I would find my stomach turning at the idea of reciting a
> list. You'll have to take my word for it.
>
> > I didn't escape an education with
> > the Jesuits - only to wind up in something even
> > worse.
>
> You and my father and old JJ (whose stand-in, Dedalus, was called by
> Buck Mulligan something like "the jejune jesuit," or words close to
> that). Me, I had a different order of brothers with whom I had too
> many close calls.
>
> > (And yes, yes, I KNOW what splendidly
> > rigorous teachers they were. I've spent quite
> > a bit of my life trying to undo some of their
> > damage.)
>
> Indeed, and on that I will say no more, for you have said all that
> needs to be noted on THAT topic.
>
> --tim
>
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