Re: The Shuffle (Formerly Da Bears)

Honestly, John -- no BS -- I have _very little_ idea what, exactly, you're
trying to communicate to me.

I don't think anyone is "exalted." Never said that. I know too many of these
ivory tower types personally to make that mistake.

I cited the large numbers of higher ed institutions not to make a "populist"
argument, but to demonstrate how _absolutely irrational_ it is to describe
_everyone_ engaged in "fueling the literary criticism industry" with this words:

>People who fuel the literary criticism industry: Good-for-nothing,
>God-forsaken, supercilious academicians; -- John

What does that word "fueling" mean? Writing criticism? Reading criticism?
Publishing criticism? I assume all -- which would simply inflate the numbers of
people you're generalizing about.

I called you a bigot, John, because since there are over 4000 institutions of
higher ed in the US, there are tens of thousands of people "fueling the literary
criticism industry" -- and in you're omniscience, you _know_ that they are _all_

>Good-for-nothing,
>God-forsaken, supercilious academicians; -- John

What would people be saying if you had said, "Jews are Good for nothing,
God-forsaken, and supercilious." Or "Blacks are Good for nothing, God-forsaken,
and supercilious." Or, "Puerto Ricans are Good for nothing, God-forsaken, and
supercilious."

I'd hope more people would take issue with you.

You just can't characterize entire groups of human beings with those words
without expecting someone to have a problem with that.

If you don't understand what I've been saying to you, it's not my fault. I
can't get any clearer than this.

Jim

John Gedsudski wrote:

> >Scottie and John -- anyone who makes a large generalization about an
> >entire group of people -- especially one as inflammatory as John's --
> >deserves the title "bigot."
>
> Not unless you catch us in one of those musty beer halls, sharing a tattered
> copy of Boas' Greatest Hits. Otherwise I prefer 'balanced'.
>
> >
> >Here, let me quote it again:
> >
> ><<People who fuel the literary criticism industry: Good-for-nothing,
> >God-forsaken, supercilious academicians; -- John>>
> >
> >I want you to read it over and over again, John, until what you said
> >penetrates your consciousness just a little bit.
>
> Yes, Yes, it has. But it has. My eyelids are now a bit heavier, Jimbo, and,
> yes, now I agree my resistance is my persistance. The fact that I am at rock
> bottom is a way for me to bounce back up.
> By George you've got it. Subtle, yet incisive.
>
> >
> >Please don't play the victim here John. It's bad enough being a bigot,
> >but I can chalk that up to a blindness you can't quite help. You don't
> >have to be a hypocrite as well.
> >
> >Scottie -- I'm not sure what gives you pause about the figure "over 4000
> >degree granting institutions." I lifted that from a US Department of Ed
> >publication. I can dig up the link if you like.
>
> There could be 400000 and I still would not be sure what you are proving
> here. Take a stand Jim, stop riding the waves of popularism. Those are damn
> lies.
>
> If you disagree that
> >all of them "fuel the literary criticsm industry," I would say they all
> >do if the instructors, at any time, require their students to read
> >literary criticism, or if the institution has literary journals on its
> >library shelves.
> >
> >Perhaps John meant something else by "fuel the literary criticism
> >industry," -- perhaps he intended to say, "write criticism."
> >
>
> I can speak for myself Jimbo, thank you. I meant what I said. Unlike the
> bulk of your posts, where one is usually lost in smatterings of topsy-turvy
> clap-trap, I like to make a point. Not hedge. Or make a statement and then
> duck and cover.
>
> Aristotle's Poetic's in High School.
> Jim, it is time you realized those hordes of lemmings you may see diving out
> of ivory towers when the grant money dries up are not exalted.
> I am saying this for your own good. Your ideas are inchoate, there is still
> hope. Now read this blunt (yet incisive) message.
>
> Next month try The Confessions.
>
> You will thank me.
>
> Yours,
>
> John Gedsudski
> Philistia Community College
> Adjunct Professor of Sneer
> 507 Boorish Drive
> NY,NY
>
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