>Seymour once said all we ever do our whole lives is go from one little >piece of Holy ground to the next. Im wondering if this list has moved >to >more holy places, sure is quiet. > > Paul hi paul. life gets busy sometimes, doesn't it? i hadn't even read the last weeks' digest until late night, and i was too exhausted to respond, but there was a lot i've missed and now i'm afraid all of my responses will seem belated. which they are. oh well. some time ago, someone (i'm sorry - i don't remember who just now) expressed confusion over a story i told about my dad "meeting" salinger. i probably said something weird like "my dad was introduced to salinger...". i meant introduced to him as an author, not as a person. now that would've been a story. sorry for the confusion. karen, i think you are the one who discussed seymour shooting himself in front of muriel, as a service to her, so that she could get the attention and support that she needed. this strikes me as brilliant. although i personally buy into the "two seymour" theory, if there is only one, this is the explanation which makes sense to me. people do strange things when they are depressed. he had the gun in his suitcase, showing it was premeditated (seymour never seemed to be the gun-toting type). if he had been planning this, i'm sure he would've agonized a great deal about making sure muriel would be cared for appropriately. he knew who he was married to, he had no illusions about her. it's possible that he thought this experience would awaken her from her world of love feeling like cute little kittens, but more than likely, she would remain muriel to the end, just like you suggested. paul, you seemed to rather vehemently disagree with this explanation, saying that salinger was trying to show the good, bad, and ugly. i agree. killing yourself in front of someone who loves you, regardless of how shallow they may be, is a pretty #$^*&%*& horible thing to do. i don't imagine that this was a selfless act, but a rationalization. "logic" sprung from depression can be a dangerous thing.