i never really did mourn for him because it was around that time that i finished on the road, and knew very little about the beats. cya~ randy > I'm still mourning the death of Allen Ginsburg, if you want to know the > truth, will > below is some readings i thought would apply. Three friends from the way of Chuang Tzu there were three friends discussing life. One said: "Can men live together And know nothing of it? Work together And produce nothing? Can they fly around in space And forget to exist World without end?" The three friends looked at each other And burst out laughing. They had no explanation. Thus they were better friends then before . Then one friend died. Confucious Sent a disciple to help the other two Chant his obsequies. The disciple found that one friend Had composed a song. While the other played a lute, They sang: "Hey, Sung Hu! Where'd you go? Hey, Sung Hu! Where'd you go? You have gone Where you really were. And we are here- Damn it! We are here!" Then the disciple of Confucius burst in on them and Exclaimed: "May I inquire where you found this in the Rubrics for obsequies, This frivolous carolling in the presence of the departed?" The two friends looked at each other and laugher: "Poor fellow," they said, "he doesn't know the new liturgy!" Lao Tzu's Wake from the same book Lao Tan lay dead Chin Shih attended the wake. He let out three yells And went home. One of his disciples said: Were you not the Master's friend? "Certainly," he replied. Is it then sufficient for you To mourn no better than you have just done? * * * * "In the beginning," said Chin Shu, "I thought He was the greatest of men. No longer! When i came to mourn I found old men lamenting him as their son, Young men sobbing as though for their mother. How did he bind them to himself so tight, if not By words he should never said And tears he never should have wept? "He weakened his true being, He laid pn load upoun Load of emotion, increased The enormous reckoning: He forgot the gift God had entrusted to him: This the ancients called 'punisnment For neglecting the True Self.' "The Master came at his tight time Into the world. When his time was up, He left it again. He who awaits his time, who submits When his work is done, In his life there is no room for rejoicing. Here is how the ancients said all this In four words: 'God cuts the thread.' "We have seen a fire of sticks Burn out. The fire now Burns in some other place. Where? Who knows? These brands Are burnt out."