In a message dated 97-10-21 16:53:21 EDT, you write: << it gets better--ray kinsella is the main character in "A Young Girl in l941 With No Waist At All" a story mr. salinger published in Mademoiselle in l947. I almost wrote to mr. Kinsella (the author) to see if he knew that he was already a salinger character and if that was part of why salinger is a character in _Shoeless Joe_.>> A friend of mine wrote Kinsella and asked him just that question. All that WP Kinsella replied was that Salinger once roomed with a Ray Kinsella in school. He didn't expand on the statement.