> Tim and several others posted asking about who Alanis was, as some people > didn't get the joke/refrence. > > I explained who Alanis was which got turned to -> grrl power refrences to > other grrl muscians. What has been amusing to me, watching all this, is that as a total illiterate when it comes to popular culture, I recently heard of Alanis. <Go ahead, laugh! I'm the last holdout in the world, it seems.> So I got the album "Jagged Little Pill," have grown to enjoy it a lot, and have done all this bereft of any cultural references to the singer or the music industry. I still mostly know only what I've heard here; otherwise, I know nothing about her, and her work exists in a total vacuum for me. That's why it's entertaining to see the line of reasoning that says, "She was good / She broke new ground / Now she's been overtaken / Now she's old news." Because to me in my little bubble, I didn't know anything of any of this, and I only marginally worry about it. But I still like the record a lot. The only difference is that now I'm motivated to find the other musicians whose names have come up. ObSalinger: We do this all the time in this list regarding the works of JDS. People come and go, and many of the people who come in have never read much of his work and have become enchanted by one or another of his books, and want to learn more. So, they know JDS the way I knew Alanis. --tim o'connor