Re: Plethora of hotfooting
ME (Matthew_Stevenson@baylor.edu)
Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:34:53 -0600
lagusta--wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. anger can be useful. anger
does help you to appreciate happiness. anger should not be suppressed.
but...anger is no more a synonym for activism than sadness is for
passivity. how many songs/books/poems have been written to express
sadness and dealing with it? not to say there haven't been many written
to express anger, just don't forget the active "saddoes" like tolstoy,
forest carter, tennyson, et al. and anger is often, at least in my
experience, more destructive than sadness. i tend to do things i regret
when angry much more than when i'm sad. and anger doesn't always burn
out into sadness, nor does sadness always wise up into anger. sometimes
one happens, sometimes the other, and often something totally different
happens. and this has been my tired of writing papers rant.--matt
(subdued by lack of sleep)
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:47:30 -0500 (EST) ly001f@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
(Lagusta Pauline Yearwood) wrote:
>
>
>Malcolm wrote:
>
>> Over here, mate. Angry isn't nearly as interesting as what happens
>when it
>> finally burns itself out and becomes sad. To me angry female singers
>are just
>> as boring as angry male singers. It's not until you get a bit of
>sensitivity
>> that you start to actually reach some depth rather than just blaming
>> everything you can point at. Audiences will always want saviors, and
>little
>
>i couldn't disagree more. where do you think anger comes from?
>sensitivity. holden's angry a lot of the time. sad is...just sad. anger
>makes you get off your bottom and go do something. sad sits a home and
>writes bad poetry. angry writes the stuff that organizes the masses for
>real change. my anger is probably my favorite quality, i never want to
>lose it. carefully directed, it's my most valuable weapon.
>
>ok, another ani quote:
>
>"if you're not angry,
>then you're just stupid or you don't care
>how else can you react
>when you see something so unfair
>that the men of the hour
>can kill half the world in war
>or make them slaves to a superpower
>and let then die poor..."
>
>damn straight.
>
>> girls and little boys will always want their saviors to be as angry
>as their
>> own parents won't allow them to be. Perfect recipe for a puppet
>dictator, eh?
>
>oh no oh **no**. maybe these angry singers let the "little girls and
>little boys" know that it's okay to be angry, that they can use their
>anger.
>
>i don't know why i'm going so off on this. i guess because i think
>anger
>is just so amazing. it doesn't need to involve blame, or shame or
>violence
>or anything. i know i couldn't be so happy if i wasn't so angry some of
>the time. make sense? i think i can only realize how achingly beautiful
>everything can be when i've also seen how heartbreaching terrible it
>can
>be, and faught against that side.
>
>i don't think audiences want saviors...i think maybe individual
>idiots do, but i think audiences want their emotions refected in
>someone
>else. audiences of the music we've been talking about, anyway.
>i go to ani shows because i think and believe like she
>does, not because she's some diva that i bow down to. i like her
>because she says things i say.
>
>its the same with salinger. some people want to turn him into some
>savior,
>but the smart people realize him for what he is all he is: a guy who
>writes well about things other people feel. he makes me feel good
>because
>i feel the same things buddy and seymour and frannie do, and i like the
>way he writes. i don't expect him to perfect my world, i'll do that
>myself, thank you very much.
>
>> In a lot of ways, Sinead O'Connor is still the mother of that whole
>lot. When
>> she was angry she could have eaten any of those other sistahs for
>lunch. And
>> when her anger finally burned out and supernovaed and she got sad,
>she's the
>> only one who you'd want to sing you to sleep.
>
>ahhhhh!!! but who wants to be sung to sleep?? i'd rather be out there,
>wide eyed, screaming about everything. ok, i know you're thinking
>literally, and i'm interpreting it metaphorically (sleep), but, gosh. i
>don't think the point was to eat those other sistas (not that you said
>it
>was), i think the point was just that she didn't like the way the world
>is
>and sung about it.
>
>and i don't think anger burns out and becomes sadness. i think they can
>and do exist at the same time, i think it's possibly the other way
>around:
>you get sad about something then wise up and get angry and fix it.
>
>well, there's my i'm-going-crazy-writing-all-these-papers rant.
>
>lagusta