> > >Are there any atheists among you who are bothered by "all this talk about > >Jesus" in Faz? > > i just find the jesus talk curious. considering the jewish influence, and > the zen influence, i find it interesting that jd can write a story that > ends so astoundingly of a christian note. > One of the main points of Salinger's theology is to point out the lack of differences between the religions. Zooey's admonishment to Franny about going straight from her St Francis view of Christ to the Bhudda is not an endorsement of christianity, it's pointing out her lack of understanding. Seymour's invoking of Christ is not really so " Christian" he's reverting to the old " seeing christbeing a Christian" The Jewish or Zen influences are no more prevalent than the Christian influence if you really look into what's being said. JD is all about trying to get us to unlearn the differences. > i like the way it has a nice neat ending which, although mentioning jesus, > doesn't reek of piousness (piety?). as far as i recall, s:ai ends > similarly? the part i'm thinking of is the comment buddy makes about all > his irritating writing students being his sisters... Seymour's ending with the whole, " They shine with the light of the misinformation of the ages thing, but oh how they shine." ( bad paraphrase here, forgive me. I'm trying to be quick and getting up to get the book with make this adventure a lot longer) Is one of my favorite pieces from any book anywhere. This sure is another example of the Christ consciousness in the real world. I've often wondered why folks who have no interest whatsoever in spiritual matters would be interested in these books.( the Glass stories, the rest of you can have that snotty Holden Caufield as far as I'm concerned.) I've also wondered if this doesn't have at least something to do with the author's withdrawal. Did he become tired of people questioning the singular religious bent of his stories? Did the clamor for another witty, disenfranchised youth, in a red hat contribute to his need to stop sharing what was really closest to his heart with us? Just something I've often wondered, and it occurs to me every time I see posts like this questioning the spiritual content of our good friends the Glasses. Robert Morris winboog@gis.net now playing-Bob Dylan, Live 1966 ( which is completely mind boggling good for all the Zimmy lurkers out there.)