Ok, gotcha. Well, shoot, then I agree with you :) Jim << Not me personally, but we as a culture tend to idealize Eastern philosophies and currently bash Christianity. In other words, the posting "Doesn't it bother you, the Christian overtones..." would never have been posted if it were "Doesn't it bother you, the Zen overtones in..." Y'know what I mean? Namaste, Thor>> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]