On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:21:32PM -0700, Erin McLaughlin wrote: > Hey Tim, I have a question. It's a serious one, so don't take it the > wrong way. How do you not consider God? I mean, how do you not think > about it? I find this whole atheism thing intriguing. Apparently, this > mailing list has at least a few. So I'm wondering, what's your meaning? > I mean, why do you read and look at art and have kids and buy houses and > write poetry? Aren't you looking for something? Or do you just think > whatever you're looking for exists inside you and your frame of > reference. Just wondering... I don't take it the wrong way at all -- no problem. I have been thinking about the universe recently, probably because of an article I just saw in (I think) Scientific American. As you know, ours is a puny spot in a huge galaxy, and this is just one of many, many galaxies, some of which are utterly obscured by a vast dispersion of light between us and the others. Now, I've been fascinated by astronomy since I was a kid, and I've often looked up at the skies in wonder. But unless I come upon an article, or some space event occurs, I don't really think about the galaxies and their components. I know they are on the minds of some people for whom such matters are very important. But I don't often dwell on it unless it's called to my attention. (And to make a not-so-obvious parallel with religion, I'm told by people who are supposed to know these things that all I've said above is scientifically true, about our galaxy and the others beyond it. But in believing it, I have to do so as an act of faith, since it's no more tangible to me than someone's god is.) There is a bit in PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN in which Stephen Dedalus writes this in his geography book: Stephen Dedalus Class of Elements Clongowes Wood College Sallins County Kildare Ireland Europe The World The Universe Now, that was a lad who knew his coordinates. I myself devote most of my energy to the first two or three lines and leave it at that. My "meaning" -- I don't know how to describe it. I don't have kids and I don't buy houses, and when I look at pictures and read and listen to music, I don't put it in Stephen Dedalus's framework. I take it for what it is, and try to appreciate it. I know, for instance, that Van Gogh was the son of a religious man, but still, I look at his work and love it, but do not think of God as a factor in Vincent's paintings. *He* may have; I don't know. But I do not. I am grateful that the pictures survived, and that he lived long enough to make them. And when I write, I don't do it for spiritual reasons. I don't think I can put a finger on WHAT motivates me -- certainly it's not money, because I've never made more than a few thousand dollars in my whole life from writing things -- but I know that I do it because it's who I am and it's what I do naturally. I'm seeking, I guess, to find things that will make a pinging noise that resonates in me, that makes me feel that I've been touched by the writer or the artist or the musician. That there's a common bond between us. One thing that delights me, the way a baby is delighted by funny faces, is to talk to a writer and at some later point find bits of what we've discussed show up in a later piece of work. I don't know if I have a frame of reference that's big enough to include anything quite as big as "god," however one defines one's deity. It honestly never occurs to me. There is a big vacuum there for me. Other people might have beliefs there, but I don't. I don't miss it and I don't think about it unless it's called to my attention and, I'm sorry to have to say, it doesn't bother me or make me feel regret. I have infinitely more regret about the times I've hurt people than I do about not thinking about the existence of a god. --tim