Camille Scaysbrook wrote: > The semiotics and the actual meaning are two different things. > It's like if you saw a big red octagonal sign with `GO' written on it. > You'd probably stop before you actually obeyed the `go'. An intersting idea. I think I would indeed stop for the go sign. Semiotics, semiology--though Saussure does distinguish between a "linguistic sign" and a "men at work" type of sign, he includes both in his proposed "semiology." Perhaps Kari ougt to add this root and its variants to the forbidden topic list immediately. As for "actual meanings"...well, I'll leave that one for Jim. I'm off on some rare atavistic impulse to go camping for the weekend... -- Matt Kozusko mkozusko@parallel.park.uga.edu