I wish mattis were in the class...wish you were all there...but just for the record this list is the real teacher...will PS: Mattis, your reply did two things...it will make Nikki ("me") think more deeply about her own ideas and it made me continue to respect students who think for themselves and question questions...recently I asked my Salinger Seminar to send letter a letter of advice and some of the best replies threw the issue of advice out the window...eh, LeeAnn and Thor?