Re: self reflection/discretion is the better part of valor


Subject: Re: self reflection/discretion is the better part of valor
From: Jive Monkey (monkey_jive@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 15 2001 - 07:51:02 GMT


Shakes-

These chickens you speak of made their little roost in a blaze of fire and
death seen all over the world. Most Americans aren't aware that these
attacks aren't considered "unprovoked" by those who perpetrated them and
others who understand the cause and effects of history, but they could care
less now. Too bad that these people who wish to point out the inequity of
U.S. foreign policy choose to do so by committing crimes just as terrible,
if not more so, as the ones they seek to bring to light and punish. Support
for armed militias within the U.S. dried up pretty fast after Timothy
McVeigh decided it was a good idea to whip up some "collateral damage" on
his way to showing the world what the U.S. gets for making him mad; it looks
like the organizations behind these acts will be going the way of the dodo
the hard way themselves pretty soon. I watched an interview given in 1997
in which Osama bin Laden proclaimed that there is a "double standard" set by
the U.S. concerning the Middle East ("if you don't do what we say we'll bomb
you, and if anyone doesn't agree we'll label them as terrorists"), to which
I said "well no shit Sherlock, but do you think anyone is going to listen to
you now?" He's not only played directly into the double standard and
completely failed to expose it at all (even if he wasn't behind this, just
through his actions in the past), he's put his seal of approval on it by
saying "this is how to get things done." Diplomacy works a lot better in the
long run and makes you a lot less enemies.

The most successful movement I can think of that pointed out and worked for
a change to injustice by the U.S. was the non-violent civil rights movement
of the 1960's. The images of blacks and other civil rights activists being
beaten by police just for asking for the same rights as everyone else proved
the justice of their cause and gained support from all over the world.
Blowing up buildings and the people inside results in just the opposite.

andy

From: "shakes le drummer" <the_evergreen_partie@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
Subject: self reflection
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 04:27:41 +0000

why is the 'international sector' not so surprised about the recent event of
terrorism?
it's going to be a hard stretch for the american public to make but it's all
about - 'bad politics baby'
     or as the most morbid analogy would have it.....
     those chickens were coming home to roost
we need to recognize the very negative effects of global capitalism
(and let's not forget international supply of arms and terrorist funding)
truthfully if you start adding up the global crimes list american leaders
would be up to their greedy necks in it
so while the world holds sympathy for the innocent u.s. lives slain in this
recent atrocity the callings of 'injustice' and the cry for vengeance
rings hollow when stacked next to the global consciousness of international
crime

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