Subject: respect for other cultures-zero /  ruthlessness-%100
From: shakes le drummer (the_evergreen_partie@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 2001 - 16:40:21 GMT
'war culture' is an international language
and the u.s.of a. consistantly comes in with top marks
- in every class    that's the reward for doing your homework
for wars with international/national support it's weapons on display
'let's get 'em out and get it on!'
but when there needs to be some sneaking round involved
so NO ONE knows what';s going on
guess who have the $$$, connections and two-faced arrogance to play the game 
in that arena as well?    who funded noriega hussain AND bin laden?
yeah, it's a rhetorical question kids     -  U.S.A.  O.K.
and the americans who don't understand 'why' of violent culture simply 
aren't members of the military      cause you've got to have specialists 
right?
it's a mistake to think that entire cultures live for war
of course the sad fact is that many cultures live with war
and to survive as a culture even your child must take up arms
aren't we lucky we're not at that stage?  but if there was no 
alternative....  and stating that you do not understand the violent culture 
is to rudely ignore the infinate injustices inflicted on people by people 
within the very boundaries of 'the land of the free'    by specialists and 
amateurs alike
my friends have been suffering nightmares filled with bombs helicopters and 
exploding oil tankers    the propoganda machine is in full swing
poisoning our fragile minds
humane considerations have been swamped in a wash of hate
my question for you all....has anyone seen chomsky's lucid work of honesty
Manufacturing Consent?
if the world survives,how long will this refusal to accept responsibilty 
continue?      i think the 2nd is dependant on the 1st
>From: Cecilia Baader <ceciliabaader@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>Subject: Re: whoa!
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
> >     '... Americans don't understand the why of the violent
> >     culture because we don't live it ...'
> >
> >     From the people who gave us 'the right to bear arms',
> >     Waco, Columbine, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre &
> >     the rest - that's giving altogether unnecessary hostages.
>
>
>Okay, okay.  Perhaps I phrased that badly, as when I said violent I was
>thinking of guerilla warfare and the like, but I stand behind my
>original intent, i.e., We don't understand that why of the war culture.
>
>I'd just like to say, however, that using The Texas Chainsaw Massacre as
>an example as the violence in American culture just plain doesn't wash.
>There is absolutely no comparison between that and this.  Teenagers
>watching horror flicks don't grow up to bomb cities.
>
>Regards,
>Cecilia.
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