Subject: RE: Shirley Temple dances !
ZazieZazie@hetnet.nl
Date: Mon Sep 17 2001 - 04:55:18 GMT
sb.
God knows you're not going to find me in the ranks
of the self righteous Europeans who make such a smug
career out of preaching & teaching manners to the most
decent, most tolerant imperial power the world has ever
known. (After us Brits, that is.)
Me:
>>(After us Brits, that is.)
Scottie, i know (i guess) that you are trying to
be funny/ironical/cynical but this is really not funny if you are
from the former colonies of England (e.g. Ireland).
Sb.
Zazie, with relatively brief intermissions, I've lived all of my
seventy three years in Ireland. My wife & daughters in law
are Irish, all my patients & the great majority of my friends
are Irish. My sons are, of course, half Irish. My parents are
buried in Ireland. For three years I lived as a member of
the family of a man who later became the President of Ireland.
I know it's not easy, but DO try not to make a fool of yourself
by telling me what is, or is not, funny about the Irish experience.
Scottie B.
Me:
About a thousand years of English occupation, and you don't recognize it as such??
Boy, did they ever do a job on YOU!
The majority of my information comes from English people, and they tell me that Ireland had been English
property for hundreds and hundreds of years. Maybe they were mistaken.
Enlighten me, if ever so briefly.
sb.
'... The majority of my information comes from English people ...'
Be quiet Zazie. You're embarrassing us all.
Me:
Okay, i didn't mean THAT briefly. And so meaningless.
But if you don't want to take me seriously, that's fine.
I really don't understand.
Are you saying that the Irish experience under
English/British rule, was really a nice and good thing?
This is what it seems like, but i can hardly believe that.
Or are you saying:
Nobody but I, the Great Scott bow! man, can say anything credible and
worthwhile about the "Irish Experience"?
The more cynical side of me repeats: Boy, did the English ever do a job on you
of turning you into an English puppet (now singing American songs, by the way)
More Roman than the pope, that's how you seem now.
Or, even weirder, is your point that Ireland never was under British rule?
My original point was that you stated that the British had a tolerant empire.
Wheter you were joking or not, I don't think you can joke about such
a thing. I also believe that Irish suffered under English rule. And they have struggled
(I know, not always) to get out of it.
Or is that not the case? Is the IRA placing all those bombs because they
want to be back in the English Empire? Maybe somebody should tell them
then, because the other side wants the same thing ...
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