RE: turneth away wrath?


Subject: RE: turneth away wrath?
From: Sean Draine (seandr@microsoft.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2001 - 14:01:08 GMT


Cecilia:
    '... We don't understand that why of the war culture ...'

Scottie:
    That's a charming protestation of innocence, Cec, & I can
    understand where it comes from on a week such as this.

    But, of course, it won't wash.

Actually, it does wash. The vast majority of Americans have no first
hand knowledge of war or of violence approximating war. Put more
generally, the vast majority of Americans have no idea what it's like to
live day to day with a high risk of meeting a violent end. Even our
ghettos (at least the one I live in) are, despite all of the press and
sensationalism, a far cry from, say, Jerusalem on a bad day. The media
may give you another impression, but the media is in business of selling
violence and mayhem.

(Keep in mind, it's been 140 years since any significant war has been
fought on our soil.)

The fact that Hollywood is so violent only supports this point. We are
willing to shell out money for Saving Private Ryan because we want to
experience something that's missing from our lives.

-Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Scottie Bowman [mailto:rbowman@indigo.ie]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:11 AM
To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
Subject: turneth away wrath?

    '... We don't understand that why of the war culture ...'

    That's a charming protestation of innocence, Cec, & I can
    understand where it comes from on a week such as this.

    But, of course, it won't wash. From the confirmation of
    your country's Union in the first modern war to the Tokyo
    fire-raids & through four assassinated Presidents to the latest
    multiple school shooting, Americans have been just as much
    at home with the gun & with violence - perhaps more so -
    than the rest of us.

    It's that word 'home' that seems to me to be the key.
    Until Tuesday the Eleventh, America's wars were all taking
    place in another century or another place. It appals me
    to look at the aerial shots of Manhatten this morning -
    but to a German or Russian contemporary they must seem
    small beer. Five thousand people died last week in New York.
    Yet twenty times that number were killed in one night
    in Hamburg by the outfit to which I once had the great
    honour to belong. This is the way the world is: filthy
    & complicated & horrible. And, even for Americans now
    it seems, there's no more escaping it.

    You people saved the rest of us in two global wars. I remember
    so vividly longing, longing, longing in the winter of 1940
    that you'd come & help us. And how we loathed the isolationist
    voices, the Joe Kennedys, the Lindberghs who advised steering
    clear, preserving the Munroe Doctrine, not getting your hands
    dirty in foreign wars.

    I think I detect the same tones now: the voices urging forebearance
    & an understanding of your assailant. Be reasonable, they say,
    don't strike back, see where he's coming from, be a little more
    generous - and so on. Which is exactly what the statemen of
    the Thirties tried. Most of them had known the horrific reality
    of war at first hand & felt that anything other was preferable.

    It didn't work though. Talking gently when the other chap
    has the big stick - or has just thumped you - gets you nowhere,
    except a little bit further back down the street. A couple of
    Huns lying dead on a Rhine bridge in 1937 would have saved
    many millions over the next decade.

    Sweet intentions are no substitute for engagement & firmness.
    As the dominant empire this is the lesson America has to learn.
    By your very position you can never hope to be loved.
    Stop trying. The Romans had no qualms about razing a couple
    of Black Forest villages from time to time. And for centuries
    the ordinary European enjoyed good road, decent drains,
    fair laws & a quiet life. Only with the triumph of Christian
    caritas did we sink into stinking morass of the Dark Ages.

    We've had two Pear Harbours now. Surely to God we don't
    need a third.

    Scottie B.

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