RE: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School

Royal Tannenbaums is a great movie. I have heard people say that Bill Murray
was pretty disappointing in the movie, but I loved his character. The fact
that the kid he was studying was probably just a moron rather than having some
new handicap or depression and seeing the kid misplacing the blocks and Bill
Murray's face lighten up like that was just amazing was so funny to me.
As far as the Tannenbaums resembling the Glass family, I don't really see much
where they are similar besides their genius as their problem with being around
other people (non-geniuses).
The movie as a dark comedy was great and I liked the subtlety of so many
aspects of the movie. Often when a filmmaker is trying to make a point(s) in
his/her work it is so blatantly obvious that it feels like being smacked in
the face. This movie wasn't at all like that.
As far as writing in all lower cases, I must say that I write using the shift
key almost exclusively for this list or if I am communicating with a professor
or something. I do this because when I first joined the list I was berated by
Mr. Bowman for typing in all lower case and for having the audacity to put my
name at the end with a capital L. Maybe now there is the off chance that Big
Bad Bowman will actually read something I send to the list.
No longer handiCapped,
LEVI

>===== Original Message From Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> =====
>Just saw The Royal Tennenbaums and loved it :). There's a resemblance to the
>Glass family there in that we have a small family of genius children, but
they
>seem to have neuroses a bit different from most of the Glasses. I don't
really
>see Gwyneth Paltrow's character as a Franny at all -- she's too jaded. She
>acts like she was sexually abused AND terribly neglected. The incest theme
in
>that movie is pretty interesting...but don't see a hint of it in Salinger.
>
>Gene Hackman stole the show ;). And that's even with Angelica Houston
opposite
>him -- what a feat.
>
>Seems like this came up recently. One post described the children as being
>whiny, I think -- more crybaby than genius. I think genuis was second to the
>fact that the kids were sooo neglected by their father and raised in such a
>screwed up environment...as if to say, even brillant kids will just go to
>pieces in a home like this.
>
>Jim
>
>"Murray, Miranda" wrote:
>
>> Amber,
>>
>> I would not suggest Pennsylvania State University...regarding the film "The
>> Good Girl", I haven't seen it yet but it looks mildly interesting. How
>> would you rate it? On the subject of Salinger influence in films, did
>> anyone enjoy "The Royal Tenenbaums"? Any thoughts?
>>
>> Miranda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raley, Amber [mailto:araley@agnesscott.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:23 AM
>> To: 'm e g h a n '; 'bananafish@roughdraft.org '
>> Subject: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School
>>
>> Meghan et al.,
>>
>> You statements seem to almost describe the Holden character (Tom is his
>> slave name) from the film "The Good Girl." Did anyone else see this movie
>> and have any thoughts about the strong Salinger connection? It was a bit
>> overboard in my opinion. Maybe that was the point?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Amber
>>
>> P.S. Non-Salinger material to follow. I will (hopefully) be going into an
>> Industrial/Organizational Psychology PhD program next year. To all of the
>> resident academics are any of you familiar with the 'atmosphere' of any of
>> my top 10 choices for Graduate school?
>> 1. Pennsylvania State University
>> 2. Bowling Green State University
>> 3. Saint Louis University
>> 4. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>> 5. University of Connecticut
>> 6. Colorado State University
>> 7. Portland State University
>> 8. Texas A&M University
>> 9. Rice University
>> 10. University of California, Berkeley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: m e g h a n
>> To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>> Sent: 9/3/2002 8:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: intelligence of the author vs. intelligence of the characters
>>
>> >I actually feel the same way you do about Catcher and the Glass stories
>> (I
>> >get a lot more out of the Glass stories). . .just, if you want to judge
>> >Salinger's influence, there's just no getting around or beyond Catcher.
>>
>> I agree also. What gets me about "Catcher" is that (this may be
>> selfish)it's
>> not Salinger's best work, yet it's taught in high schools, which gets it
>> a
>> lot of exposure. Then you have kids full of real or imagined angst who
>> are
>> like, man that book is me! I can relate! And they then credit Salinger
>> as
>> their favorite author.. without ever reading any of his other (better)
>> work.
>> It's just given too much credit. The selfish part comes in because I
>> first
>> read Catcher when I was 13, I had seen it in a bookstore and made my mom
>> buy
>> it. Fast forward three years, it's being taught in english and there's
>> 100
>> kids or however many in my class saying how much they love it.. when
>> they
>> probably never would have read it on their own. I guess I should hope
>> that
>> someone reads Catcher in english class, and then reads Salinger's other
>> work
>> and falls in love with it like I did, and then I can thank Catcher for
>> that.
>>
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