Re: franny pregnant?

Rod Lobaugh (ral@xc.org)
Thu, 04 Sep 1997 00:51:25 +0200 

(ah hell why am i doing this)
> 
> You had even give me MORE proof when you had said Jerry's wife had their
> daughter the same year that Franny was published. You had said something
> along the lines of how cliched it would have been if he would have taken
> one of his most beloved characters and had her get pregnant.
> 
i don't know the exact dates, but if he was working on franny while 
his wife was getting ready to pound out a kid, wouldn't been kind of 
natural for him to start thinking about it alot and possibly 
stat including little hints and crap about what he was seeing in his 
story and maybe just decided to do it?  huh? damn.

 

> It doesn't. Her spiritual "quest" could very well be from her pregnancy, IF
> she thinks or if she really is pregnant. 

(ah hell why not)

yes why not that.  couldn't it be possible that she thought she was 
and thus started saying "what the hell is this shitbox and what the 
hell am i gonna do about it" or something?

Or another thought totally in contrast to the above.  couldn't the 
spiritual quest also be brought on by the fact that her brother 
splattered his brains all over a freaking hotel room when she was a 
kid and she is still dealing with it all inside?  

couldn't it be a combination of the two?  

you thought about this already didn't you?  damn.


> This begs the question of then why you have taken it upon yourself to
> critise my opinion. Am I not allowed to have one whether or not you agree
> with me? 
> 
damn straight or something (sorry to get in on you argument, but when 
it's plastered in my email box, it's free territory)

> Franny from my
> recollection is much nearer in her senses and much more stable then Holden
> ever was.
> 
As far as we can tell.  But it's only a glimpse.  Not the whole novel 
like Holden had.  Take Holdens little escapade with Sally Hayes where 
he starts going on about going west for instance.  Within the novel, 
you see Holden grasping again.  We know about his prior experiences, 
and by now we are seeing the track he is on.  But if you just saw 
that one incident (you can actually sort of do this if you only read 
"Slight Rebelion Off Madison") you wouldn't see Holden as being so 
unstable.  Maybe, just maybe, Franny has been having the same sort of 
build up.  Maybe it's been growing like Holden, but we only see 
apart.

Just a thought. damn.

>> The whole
> >pregnancy argument seems like a slap in the face to those women who are
> >young, intelligent and spiritually motivated--reverse feminism to me. 
> 
what, can't women be pregnant anymore?

damn.

> 
> So if your daughters attitudes suddenly change, she gets sick at the sight
> of food, and she gets dizzy spells, is lethargic, is depressed, is no
> longer speaking to her boyfriend,  are you going to suddenly say: Daughter!
> I see you are on the verge to higher enlightenment!
> 
hehehe good point, 

> 
> And the fact that 
> a: it was the 1950's,
> b: she and her bf were sneaking in and out her house, 
> c: she went to go see him at his college 
> d: she gets nauseated at the sight of food 
> d: she is depressed and lethargic 
> e: she is no longer speaking to her boyfriend 
> f:she won't communicate with anyone save her brother, and even then its all
> coded 
> g: she faints and has dizzy spells.
> 
wow.  structure.

and good content.  as i said earlier (yeah i know you don't care) 
i've never thought that myself.  the pregnancy bit.  but your doing 
good to make me see the whole picture.  thanks.  

whatever though, i think i had a point somewhere up there i hope.

good night

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that will be heard"  
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