From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 13 12:26:30 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6DGQUu07386 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> Subject: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Dear Listmembers, I am a staffmember of Panix, the ISP that hosts the bananafish list. I am sorry to have to inform you (though you already may know) that Tim O'Connor passed away, very recently. As a result, this list is being discontinued. We are going to leave it in place until next Monday, July 19, so that in case anybody wants to make arrangements to re-create this list somewhere else, he or she can post information about it to the list. Please remember that you will not be able to post to this list after July 19th. Malgosia Askanas Panix Public Access Networks Corp. - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 13 14:22:03 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6DIM3W20711 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20040713181215.93646.qmail@web52709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Johnson Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org In-Reply-To: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-190045020-1089742334=:92591" Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org --0-190045020-1089742334=:92591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh, man... I am so sorry to hear that. I had joined the list only recently and had enjoyed it very much... My condolences to Tim's friends & family. David J. "malgosia askanas (staff)" wrote: Dear Listmembers, I am a staffmember of Panix, the ISP that hosts the bananafish list. I am sorry to have to inform you (though you already may know) that Tim O'Connor passed away, very recently. As a result, this list is being discontinued. We are going to leave it in place until next Monday, July 19, so that in case anybody wants to make arrangements to re-create this list somewhere else, he or she can post information about it to the list. Please remember that you will not be able to post to this list after July 19th. Malgosia Askanas Panix Public Access Networks Corp. - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! --0-190045020-1089742334=:92591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Oh, man... I am so sorry to hear that.  I had joined the list only recently and had enjoyed it very much...  My condolences to Tim's friends & family.
David J.

"malgosia askanas (staff)" <askanas@panix.com> wrote:
Dear Listmembers,

I am a staffmember of Panix, the ISP that hosts the bananafish list. I am
sorry to have to inform you (though you already may know) that Tim O'Connor
passed away, very recently. As a result, this list is being discontinued.
We are going to leave it in place until next Monday, July 19, so that in case
anybody wants to make arrangements to re-create this list somewhere else,
he or she can post information about it to the list. Please remember that
you will not be able to post to this list after July 19th.


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Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 13 14:29:59 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6DITx121093 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40F42A59.7070401@drew.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:30:49 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, de-at, de-de, fr-fr, es-pr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Thanks very much for the update. A new list has been created: Salingeria, on Yahoo groups, and many listmembers from bananafish are already on. You can subscribe by visiting http://groups.yahoo.com/salingeria/ if you have problems, email me at jrovira@drew.edu. It's an unmoderated group. I just have to approve your first post. Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? Especially the archives from January through June 2004? Thank you again, Jim Rovira malgosia askanas (staff) wrote: >Dear Listmembers, > >I am a staffmember of Panix, the ISP that hosts the bananafish list. I am >sorry to have to inform you (though you already may know) that Tim O'Connor >passed away, very recently. As a result, this list is being discontinued. >We are going to leave it in place until next Monday, July 19, so that in case >anybody wants to make arrangements to re-create this list somewhere else, >he or she can post information about it to the list. Please remember that >you will not be able to post to this list after July 19th. > > >Malgosia Askanas >Panix Public Access Networks Corp. > > > - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 13 14:44:12 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6DIiC921880 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407131843.i6DIhK628930@panix5.panix.com> Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" In-Reply-To: <40F42A59.7070401@drew.edu> from "James Rovira" at Jul 13, 2004 02:30:49 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org > Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? > Especially the archives from January through June 2004? I don't know the answer yet; the decision rests with Tim O'Connor's family. Let me try to find out, and I'll get back to you. Malgosia Askanas Panix Public Access Networks Corp. - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 13 14:50:25 2004 Received: by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6DIoPV22085 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40F42F54.9070108@drew.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:52:04 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, de-at, de-de, fr-fr, es-pr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <200407131843.i6DIhK628930@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407131843.i6DIhK628930@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Thanks much. If you need volunteers to do the work of updating it, I bet you could find a few on this list. Jim malgosia askanas (staff) wrote: >>Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? >>Especially the archives from January through June 2004? >> >> > >I don't know the answer yet; the decision rests with Tim O'Connor's family. >Let me try to find out, and I'll get back to you. > > >Malgosia Askanas >Panix Public Access Networks Corp. > > - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 14 09:49:06 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6EDn6r19668 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Kgartnerborders@aol.com Message-ID: <42.52c21432.2e25f26b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:20:27 EDT Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: jrovira@drew.edu, bananafish@roughdraft.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_42.52c21432.2e25f26b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 207 Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org --part1_42.52c21432.2e25f26b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hear Hear. Kelly --part1_42.52c21432.2e25f26b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hear Hear.

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Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 14 09:49:07 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6EDn7i19673 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1229.193.198.146.121.1089803757.squirrel@services.mi2.hr> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:15:57 +0200 (MEST) Subject: CFP: Salinger: Catcher From: "Igor Markovic" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_20040714131557_66321" Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org ------=_20040714131557_66321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dear all, i'm very sorry to hear about Tim... i'm sharing sorrow with all of you how were his friends... and i just hope Bananfish group won't die with him... i posted on salingeria CFP i recieved, but sending it on bananfish, for all of you how didn't joined... you might find it interesting... :) ><><>< ana ------=_20040714131557_66321 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="CFP: The Catcher in the Rye (8/31/04 & 2/28/05; collection).eml" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="CFP: The Catcher in the Rye (8/31/04 & 2/28/05; collection).eml" Return-Path: Received: from dept.english.upenn.edu (root@DEPT.ENGLISH.UPENN.EDU [128.91.200.51]) by boo.mi2.hr (8.12.8/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id i6C61dh3019019 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:01:40 +0200 Received: from dept.english.upenn.edu (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dept.english.upenn.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i6C0ot62008689; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by dept.english.upenn.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i6C0ot23008688; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407120050.i6C0ot23008688@dept.english.upenn.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: dept.english.upenn.edu: majordom set sender to owner-cfp@dept.english.upenn.edu using -f Subject: CFP: The Catcher in the Rye (8/31/04 & 2/28/05; collection) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:30:43 +0100 From: "Graham, Dr S.H." To: Sender: owner-cfp@dept.english.upenn.edu Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_10,DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_ORBS,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55-ivana0.03 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55-ivana0.03 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) MIME-Version: 1.0 In preparation and under contract: a guide to J.D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye, part of the new series, Guides to Twentieth Century Literature (Routledge). The editor seeks short essays (4,000 words) on the novel which will open up new ways in which the text can be understood. Possible topics include: masculinity sexuality class race/whiteness trauma nostalgia family/sibling relationships war (WW2 or Korea) the USA and adolescence or a reading of the novel in light of: psychoanalysis queer studies feminism I would also be interested in essays which assess: the status of the novel in the 21st century the significance of the novel outside the USA the influence of the novel on subsequent fiction and film Essays will form one section of the finished study. It is important to bear in mind that an overview of existing criticism will precede the new essays, allowing contributors to move away from established ways of understanding the novel. In the first instance, I would like to see a short proposal (around 300 words) and c.v. by 31st August 2004. Deadline for submission of the completed essay (4,000 words): 28th February 2005. Please direct any questions to the editor, Sarah Graham, by email: shsg1@le.ac.uk. Dr Sarah Graham Lecturer Department of English/Centre for American Studies University of Leicester University Road Leicester LE1 7RH +44 (0)116 252 2625 shsg1@le.ac.uk =============================================== From the Literary Calls for Papers Mailing List CFP@english.upenn.edu Full Information at http://www.english.upenn.edu/CFP/ or write Erika Lin: elin@english.upenn.edu =============================================== ------=_20040714131557_66321-- - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 14 10:14:46 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6EEEkq21074 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40F53BF9.1020908@drew.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:58:17 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, de-at, de-de, fr-fr, es-pr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Correct Yahoo Groups URL References: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org I may have posted an incorrect URL when advertising the Salingeria Yahoo Group. Here is the correct one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/salingeria/ Again, if you have problems, email me and I can send you an invitation. Much appreciation to those who have already joined. Some listmembers are notably absent, though...people have been asking. Robbie...Luke...you guys out there? Jim - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 14 10:14:47 2004 Received: by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6EEElv21084 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40F53D06.6070604@drew.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:02:46 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, de-at, de-de, fr-fr, es-pr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <42.52c21432.2e25f26b@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <42.52c21432.2e25f26b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Hey...are you subscribed to the new Yahoo group? I don't see your name on the membership list. I'll send you an invitation that'll make it easy to join. Jim Kgartnerborders@aol.com wrote: > Hear Hear. > > Kelly - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 14 10:14:47 2004 Received: by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6EEEl621085 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40F53F07.2070802@drew.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:11:19 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de, de-at, de-de, fr-fr, es-pr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: A Query References: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407131620.i6DGKF521554@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org I know people here are still processing the news about Tim, including the ones who found out when it first happened, so I'm pretty reluctant to post this query. But I wanted to do it here because the distribution list is still fairly wide and there may be a few people around who may have some suggestions. A friend of mine has written a very good novel (I've read it) called _Karma_ and is in the process of sending it out to agents. Most have said good things about it but didn't feel they could support it. It is a rather weird cross genre kind of novel. But one agent sent this reply: >"After reviewing your submission, my reader insisted I personally read it. >After doing so, I agreed your story-telling has much potential and the >manuscript may interest certain publishers...Unfortunately, we cannot >consider it for representation as it is. We feel it needs considerable >editing...in today's marketplace, it is imperative that a manuscript be >polished and error-free. We suggest you hire a professional editor, for >writers tend to be so involved with their own prose that they often overlook >the finer subtleties of grammatical structure and continuity. After it's >polished. we'd like to see it again for reconsideration." > So, can anyone recommend a good fiction editor? Next, is anyone here familiar enough with literary agents to give me the low down on a company/agent if I gave a name (perhaps)? Please respond directly to me at jrovira(at)drew.edu. Thanks. And please, if you haven't already, join the Salingeria group and post your thoughts about Tim. It'll be a very long time before we're done talking about him, if that time ever comes. Jim - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From oconnort@panix.com Mon Jul 19 12:38:59 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6JGcxb11477 for bananafish-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:33:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" In-Reply-To: <40F42A59.7070401@drew.edu> from "James Rovira" at Jul 13, 2004 02:30:49 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org > Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? > Especially the archives from January through June 2004? If somebody wants to give these archives a proper home on the Web, I will make the raw archive files available for download by this person, and will put a link to the new archive (when it is ready) on the roughdraft.org website. Please contact me directly, at askanas@panix.com , if you want to assume responsibility for this part of the archive. Malgosia Askanas Panix Public Access Networks Corp. askanas@panix.com - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 10:34:25 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6KEYPk11463 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:05:05 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Does anyone on the list have any specific ideas for this yet? I'm willing to house them at least temporarily. Jim Rovira malgosia askanas (staff) wrote: >>Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? >>Especially the archives from January through June 2004? >> >> > >If somebody wants to give these archives a proper home on the Web, I will >make the raw archive files available for download by this person, and will >put a link to the new archive (when it is ready) on the roughdraft.org website. >Please contact me directly, at askanas@panix.com , if you want to assume >responsibility for this part of the archive. > > >Malgosia Askanas >Panix Public Access Networks Corp. >askanas@panix.com >- >* Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message >* UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH > > > - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 13:07:26 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6KH7Qw18229 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3fbc93c304072009521087ec35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:22:15 +0530 From: Vikram Mohan To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list In-Reply-To: <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Where are they housed now and Whats wrong with the current home? Meaning, why should the archive be moved. Vix! On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:05:05 -0400, James Rovira wrote: > Does anyone on the list have any specific ideas for this yet? I'm > willing to house them at least temporarily. > > Jim Rovira > > > > malgosia askanas (staff) wrote: > > >>Mr. Askanas: What will be done with the bananafish archives? > >>Especially the archives from January through June 2004? > >> > >> > > > >If somebody wants to give these archives a proper home on the Web, I will > >make the raw archive files available for download by this person, and will > >put a link to the new archive (when it is ready) on the roughdraft.org website. > >Please contact me directly, at askanas@panix.com , if you want to assume > >responsibility for this part of the archive. > > > > > >Malgosia Askanas > >Panix Public Access Networks Corp. > >askanas@panix.com > >- > >* Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message > >* UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH > > > > > > > - > * Unsubscribing? 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Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 13:16:43 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6KHGh918659 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407201715.i6KHFuf09922@panix5.panix.com> Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" In-Reply-To: <3fbc93c304072009521087ec35@mail.gmail.com> from "Vikram Mohan" at Jul 20, 2004 10:22:15 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org > Where are they housed now and Whats wrong with the current home? > Meaning, why should the archive be moved. The archives, up to the end of 2003, are at http://www.roughdraft.org/JDS. After 2003, they are not "housed" anywhere. They exist in raw format. Tim O'Connor's family seems, for now, to be planning to leave the roughdraft.org webpage in place. I _could_ add the raw archive files to that webpage and thus make them available. Obviously, if there was someone who really cared about them, it would be better if they could be put up somewhere in HTML format, the way Tim O'Connor put up the ones from before 2004. I will leave this list in place until tomorrow in case you need to have some further discussion of this. -m - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 14:26:10 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6KIQA221939 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:26:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Originating-IP: [193.198.149.221] X-Originating-Email: [anabuneta@hotmail.com] X-Sender: anabuneta@hotmail.com From: "ana" To: References: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> Subject: Re: The bananafish list Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:56:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2004 17:59:40.0624 (UTC) FILETIME=[543C8500:01C46E83] Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org hi all there is possabillitty I could open website for bananfish needs at mi2.hr (multimedial institute), together with mailing list (something like bananafish@mi2.hr), and put archive there... BUT, that's all after september/october... because MI is not working during summer, and I'm living for Italy... also, I'm not sure if this will work, and can find out only after september... so, if there are better and more safe possabillities, I vote for them... ana ----- Original Message ----- From: James Rovira To: Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:05 AM Subject: Re: The bananafish list > Does anyone on the list have any specific ideas for this yet? I'm > willing to house them at least temporarily. > > Jim Rovira - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 17:32:22 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6KLWMK29807 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kgartnerborders@aol.com Message-ID: <5b.53f04cde.2e2ee745@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:23:17 EDT Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5b.53f04cde.2e2ee745_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 207 Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org --part1_5b.53f04cde.2e2ee745_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this sounds like a good solution for the immediate future. That gives a little bit of time to figure out a more suitable solution. What does everyone else think? Kelly --part1_5b.53f04cde.2e2ee745_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this sounds like a good solutio= n for the immediate future. That gives a little bit of time to figure out a=20= more suitable solution.

What does everyone else think?

Kelly

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Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 20:14:49 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6L0EnN06488 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40FDB3D3.6050806@drew.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:07:47 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <200407201715.i6KHFuf09922@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200407201715.i6KHFuf09922@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org I'm willing to do the work of converting the 2004 archives to HTML so they can be uploaded to the roughdraft.org site -- I just need to know who to send the files to. I assume the roughdraft.org site will remain as is? Jim Rovira malgosia askanas (staff) wrote: >>Where are they housed now and Whats wrong with the current home? >>Meaning, why should the archive be moved. >> >> > >The archives, up to the end of 2003, are at http://www.roughdraft.org/JDS. >After 2003, they are not "housed" anywhere. They exist in raw format. >Tim O'Connor's family seems, for now, to be planning to leave the >roughdraft.org webpage in place. I _could_ add the raw archive files to >that webpage and thus make them available. Obviously, if there was someone >who really cared about them, it would be better if they could be put up >somewhere in HTML format, the way Tim O'Connor put up the ones from before 2004. > >I will leave this list in place until tomorrow in case you need to have some >further discussion of this. > > >-m >- >* Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message >* UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH > > > - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 20:36:43 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6L0ahf07510 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40FDB6AE.3040703@drew.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:19:58 -0400 From: James Rovira User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Subject: Re: The bananafish list References: <200407191633.i6JGXJ407852@panix5.panix.com> <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> In-Reply-To: <40FC8BE1.3070400@drew.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Reading the original query about the 2004 archive, I'm not sure I understand the situation. Let me see if I understand it: The 2004 archive currently exists in raw "text" format, I assume, and needs to be converted to HTML. The roughdraft.org site will remain up, but the 2004 archives can't be posted there. Your first post sounded like this, but the second sounded as if they could be posted to the roughdraft.org site, but it is preferable to do so after they have been converted to HTML. So 1. Someone needs to work on the archives to convert them to HTML. and maybe 2. Someone needs to house the 2004 archives. This about right? Is it definite that they can't be loaded onto the roughdraft.org site? If the site is going to remain up, that's the place for them. I am willing to convert the files to HTML. If necessary, I have webspace that's good for at least one to three years via my college, which is hopefully enough time for a permanent home. Thanks, Jim - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Tue Jul 20 21:04:25 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6L14P708919 for bananafish-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407210102.i6L12xj02463@panix5.panix.com> Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:02:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" In-Reply-To: <40FDB6AE.3040703@drew.edu> from "James Rovira" at Jul 20, 2004 08:19:58 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Jim wrote: > Reading the original query about the 2004 archive, I'm not sure I > understand the situation. Let me see if I understand it: > > The 2004 archive currently exists in raw "text" format, I assume, and > needs to be converted to HTML. Correct. > The roughdraft.org site will remain up, but the 2004 archives can't be > posted there. Your first post sounded like this, but the second sounded > as if they could be posted to the roughdraft.org site, but it is > preferable to do so after they have been converted to HTML. The site will remain up for some indefinite future, and the archives can, in principle, be posted there. They can be posted in raw form, or they can be posted as HTML. In order for them to be posted there as HTML, somebody would have to (1) convert them the HTML, and somebody would actually have to (2) go through the work of putting the HTML files into the right place in the roughdraft web directory, updating the search-engine index to include them, making the proper links on the website, etc. Obviously, that person doing (2) would have to be me. Since putting up those archives is neither really part of my job nor do I have an interest in Salinger or the list, I would much prefer not to do the work -- ergo, I would much prefer if somebody with a better reason then me to do the work hosted the 2004 archives somewhere else, and all I had to do to satisfy my aesthetic predilection for closure was to make a link to them. I _would_ assume that any member of this list would have a better reason than me to do the work, and that at least one member would have a relatively stable webspace to host the 2004 archives, but I could, of course, be wrong. -malgosia - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH From askanas@panix.com Wed Jul 21 13:06:56 2004 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by dont.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixLC1.7) id i6LH6u723171 for bananafish-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407211705.i6LH5EM19475@panix5.panix.com> Subject: Re: The bananafish list To: bananafish@roughdraft.org Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:05:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "malgosia askanas (staff)" In-Reply-To: <200407210102.i6L12xj02463@panix5.panix.com> from "malgosia askanas (staff)" at Jul 20, 2004 09:02:59 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org All right, I am going to terminate this list in a moment. Within a couple of days, I will make the raw archives accessible from the roughdraft.org website. If anybody wants to do HTMLize and host the 2004 archive and wants a link to it from the roughdraft.org site, just let me know. You have my email address. Malgosia Askanas Panix Public Access Networks Corp. askanas@panix.com - * Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message * UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH