Yup, I think you get it Tim--our list is a form of ongoing criticm IMHO, but it's alive in ways most critics aren't. It may surprise list members that I prefer to read our list, but that doesn't mean I want to forget about ideas I've experienced from critics so much as see how others understand them...refusing to think about good salinger knowledge because of where it comes from is one thing I hope to overcome with my project. will