> i was wondering if people think salinger is a realist or an idealist... i've > finished all his stories.. and i'm a little unsure.. if anyone has an opinion > one way or the other and can support it.. I can't support it with quotes, because all my Salinger books are in one place and I am in another, a situation that seems to happen with increasing regularity and predictable frustration. (Digression: This is one good reason I'd be in bliss if I had the stories and Catcher on a CD-ROM in text form -- just to have the contents of the books would be wonderful, the way I have copies of most of James Joyce; at least I can get my hands on, say, "The Dead" when I have a craving for it! One can only IMAGINE the entertaining, doomed adventure that would occur in attempting to get Salinger's work reproduced legally in electronic form!) Salinger is clearly a realist, as I read him. I think it would be difficult to characterize him otherwise, based on what he has published in book form. (I'm not really thinking of the apprentice stories he did for slick magazines during the 1940s.) In some work ("Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters," for instance), his narrative serves as a virtual guidebook to a vanished time and place. But an idealist ... that's a harder one to touch. In his work, he reminds me of a man who has lost touch with a religion. Such a man WANTS his religion to work for him, YEARNS for it to be "true" in the way he has been taught to believe in it, yet is consistently disappointed in the disparity between what the religion could be and what it really is. Some of his characters are idealistic. Despite all his surface bluster, and his troubles, Holden (in my understanding of him) masks his idealism beneath that cynical, wisecracking exterior. It's not too far removed from the kinds of characters Humphrey Bogart often played -- think of Rick in "Casablanca" or Marlowe in "The Big Sleep." I'd say that the Chief, in Salinger's "Laughing Man," wants to be an idealist, but the dark side gets the best of him, in the end. The narrator of "For Esme...," on the other hand, wears his idealism painfully in public -- and in private. (I think of those bleeding gums ... the shaking hands ... the "Dear God, life is hell" inscription he finds and notes and attempts to answer ... the solution he settles for to get his sleep and relief in the end.) Franny ... well, nobody is an idealist if Franny's not, and Franny certainly meets plenty of resistance in her pursuits. I would suggest that many of Salinger's characters want to believe in a basic sense of goodness and justice in their worlds, even when they run up face to face against evidence to the contrary. (Think of the ending of "Uncle Wiggly in Connecticut.") This is not nearly as thorough as the question deserves (though I suspect and hope that others will speak more eloquently on the subject than I can), but perhaps it's a start of one kind of answer to your question. Or it may launch a series of disputes. One could learn from either, I suspect. Cheers! --tim o'connor