is there any connection >between the linguistic competence and our speculative abilities? Is it >still true, as they said decades and decades ago, that the more difficult a >language is, the more intelligent the people speaking that language? >Help me find an answer ! >Annalisa Why, everything's connected, isn't it? I'm a little bit of a holist, or perhaps chaotist (without really knowing what either of those mean)--but to not be a smartass, I would have to say that the connection, if it's there, is small. Intelligence, I think, has very little to do with language and "difficulty" of language. The only proof I can offer to you is Huck Finn and, right before your eyes, Holden Caulfield. Holden, at least (though I'd argue the same for Huck), cannot conceivably be called unintelligent or unsophisticated--not by any meaningful gauge. His ideas and perceptions reach far into the metaphysical and into pretty sophisticated ideas. His language, however, is very simple, unsophisticated, and for the most part, inadequate to communicate these ideas to himself or to the readers. This is the problem with the Sapir-Whorf (I can see Scottie rolling his eyes from across the Atlantic): that we confuse ideas with their symbols, and will not understand abstraction until we can say it out loud or on paper. This is the problem, I believe--correct me, please, if I'm way off--that the Eastern religions address and attempt to dismiss. And the problem that Whitman dismissed, and that the Gnostics dismissed. Perhaps not dismissed, but rather got out of. The idea that a more difficult language makes a more difficult population is, I'm sorry, pretty funny. It smacks of eugenics, which alternately nauseates and amuses me. It may be that, because different phonemes are used in different languages (phonemes being the meaningless sounds that make up our consonants and vowels, the sounds we make with our mouths, noses, throats), different parts of the brain are stimulated by different languages, and it may be that French, perhaps, stimulates the Existentialist wrinkle, and that German stimulates the Diffusionist. It seems a pretty silly theory, though. If anyone else can come up with any other way that languages can influence intelligence, then I invite you to give it a shot. I'm sure Hitler had some ideas about it, as well as Stalin and, presumably, Franklin Roosevelt. Brendan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com