I've been doing some reading of late (paying special attention to `Nine Stories') and here's a couple of things I came up with : Someone (I think it was Brad, aka Godot) suggested a correlation in `The Laughing Man' between the baseball game and the concept of `getting to first base' in the sexual sense. I think there might be something in this - especially as it is emphasised that Mary didn't like to stay on first, she always had to steal second. Mary is set up as a kind of antithesis to The Laughing Man (his ugliness/her beauty; both are in their own way fantasy objects of the Chief's design). The Laughing Man is described as having a compassionate side that frustrates the Comanches - i.e. they want him to go further - whereas perhaps the implication is that Mary Hudson is too willing to `get to home base' (could you say that her insistence on wearing the wrong mitt because it's `cute' indicates her choice of the wrong kind of contraceptive ???(: ) as well as being too overeager to play the game that the Chief didn't want her to play. (whatever the answer is this is one of my favourite 9 Stories.) On another topic, I know this has probably been discussed ad infinitum, but could Jane Gallager keep all her kings in the back row because like Holden she refuses to play the `game' of life (cf Holden, Chapter 2 - `Game, my ass. Some game. If you get on the side where all the hot-shots are, then it's still a game, all right') and is attempting to keep all the `hot shots' on her side - i.e. like Holden, trying to find strength in herself ? This would add resonance to such things as Holden forgetting the foils, being lousy at skating, not caring who won the final in Chapter 1, and using the excuse that he has to go to the gym to escape from Mr Spencer's diatribe in a literal sense, and his refusal to play by the rules in a broader sense. Don't ask me how his expert golfing comes into it though. ... In an art threory class (which I'm sick of because it's full of wankers - jerks, for you Yanks (: ) we were told that the word `phoney' was first coined to describe a suspicious or unreliable thing or person because of people's early mistrust of the telephone (I guess hearing someone's disembodied voice like that must have been pretty alarming the first time). This theory sounds pretty suspect to me (and knowing said class full of wankers, could have just been an analogy), but can anyone else substantiate it or come up with the real derivation? By the way, I'm also re- reading Vladimir Nabokov's `Pale Fire', and it struck me how similar the whole situation in it is to Seymour and Muriel's, (and also Raymond Ford's). The book is formatted as a scholarly text - a foreword, the poem itself by the dead poet John Shade (`Pale Fire') and the commentary on the text by the frame narrator,Charles Kinbote - who instantly strikes me as a kind of Buddy Glass, especially in the way he almost wholly shapes the way we see the late John Shade. Finally, a small shiver went down my spine when the name of Shade's widow suddenly leapt out at me : SYBIL Shade! This book was first published in 1962, which means it is post- Bananafish, Raise High The Roof Beams, and Inverted Forest but came out the year before Seymour: An Introduction. You'll have to refresh my memory however - was Seymour published anywhere else before this? It's a very interesting parallel, anyway - and Nabokov's work is rife with intertextuality. Well, there's some stuff to chew on. Have fun with it (: Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442