<<there is no need for guns in modern society. they can cause no good.>> I'd have to agree that guns aren't the source of the problem in Columbine. You need to realize that every weapon and bomb those two young men possessed were probably illegally possessed by them by our current laws. Just making tougher laws won't stop people already committed to breaking the law. And I think you also need to consider what would happen to the balance of power between the people and the government in our society. If only the government owned the guns, they would be capable of exercising a tyranny over its people without opposition. Preventing that was the intent of the "right to bear arms." Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]