Subject: I'm telling mom! and Sean ...
ZazieZazie@hetnet.nl
Date: Thu Aug 09 2001 - 04:39:12 GMT
>>Pete wrote:
>>I am going on my second year of college, and I'm still "clean" as they
>>say. No drinking, no smokes, no drugs, not even sex (Wait a minute! Isn't
>>EVERYONE supposed to have sex in college?? you ask).
it's this equalizing of (excessive) drinking and sex which really irritates me about
Americans (or the black-stocking Dutch, but they're dying out).
I really don't see why the two should be the same. The first is obviously
bad, the second is almost never if you do it for the right reasons, like love or friendship
or fun or excitement. Not out of guilt or fear of being left alone. (I mean, you KNEW that, right?
Pete?) I get the feeling that you mean that sex is an evil thing, just as
excessive drinking. This is an insult to sex and people having it, as i've
experienced it.
>>I have never been able to call "making love."
I am sorry to hear that you felt that way, but try not to learn from other people's
mistakes, but from their successes. Successes (this is a word?) such as people
making love instead of humping around.
>> as if being more drunk is some sort of status.
we have that here too, but not the majority of the ppl i see
around me think of it like that
>>As for sex (excuse my tangent, but I am ranting a bit),
>>no one respects it anymore,
That is really such a BS, i mean all those dance partners you have, CAN'T
be thinking of it like that, right?
>>I also hope that I don't ejaculate prematurely.
Sorry to have to say this to you and I wouldn't react to it
if you weren't 5000 km's away but you probably will. From
almost first hand experience I can tell you that it's likely
that the first time aren't gonna be very smooth, but very clumsy
and embarrassing.
Scottie wrote:
>> It took my aging brain a minute to realise that Dead Pan Pete
>> was giving us his old three card trick.
Hey! You never explained this trick!? :-)
>> But otherwise I admit to a certain suspicion
>> & uneasiness with the abstemious young.
" www.dictionary.com: abstemious was Word of the Day on March 13, 2000,"
>> I feel it’s very much like
>> communism. If you aren’t one at eighteen you’ve no heart &
>> if you’re still one at thirty eight you’ve no brain. Similarly
>> with drink. If you aren’t getting legless at twenty you’re being
>> a little too careful & if you’re still doing it twenty years later
>> you really ought to be looking for the number of the local
>> AA meeting.
Does anyone see the parallel with the point Sean was making in an
earlier post about following (or not) Holden's moral lead? Does it seem
like that Scotty is giving in to Sean??? ;-)
>> I was reading only yesterday a survey of the correlation - in these islands
>> at least - between intelligence/education & health. The more affordable
>> alcohol becomes the more people drink. But the brighter & better
>> educated they are the less likely are they to smoke, to eat crap, to neglect
>> exercise - & to drink to excess.
Beware of correlations - I can show you one with an absolute one-to-one relation
between drownings and the sale of soft-ice cream ....
>> It looks as though the richer we get the fatter, lazier & drunker we grow.
>> But the cleverer & more educated we are, the thinner, livelier, longer-lived
>> - & clearer headed we also become.
Okay, I detect a logical error: the richer we get, the more educated we get?
" www.dictionary.com: fas·tid·i·ous adj.
Excessively scrupulous or sensitive, especially in matters of taste or propriety. "
Zazie
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