Re: The Gospels

Jim, Jim, Jim,
Shall we just agree to disagree on this topic or shall I roll up my sleeves
and take you out?
"tough as nails" tina

>Ok, when I read this in your previous post:
>
>>ie the sign of the fish for Christianity,
>
>I took that to mean the "fish" symbol. However, in the Gospel accounts the
>"fish" isn't a symbol of Christianity, it's a symbol for the lost, "I will
>make you fishers of men" -- the lost are like fish that need to be caught.
>
>There's a great deal of anti-gnostic polemic in Paul, whose epistles (when
>Pauline authorship isn't widely debated) were written well before any of
>the Gospel accounts. For that matter, there's also anti-Gnostic polemic in
>the epistles of John, "If anyone says that Christ has not come in the
>flesh, he is not of God." The idea that early Christianity was primarily a
>Gnostic movement is snake-oil salesman scholarship and has little to no
>textual support.
>
>Oh, that's right...all the evidence was destroyed in a conspiracy.
>
>Please :)
>
>Jim
>
>tina carson wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>You seem to have misunderstood. Allow me to be more clear.
>>The fish that I was referring to is, specifically the story of the
>>fisherman with a poor catch, then Jesus tells them when to throw their
>>nets in. This is an old story of Pythagoras. Yes, though, there is ample
>>evidence that early Christians used the fish as a symbol, which itself is
>>a pythagorean formula for two circle merging. Jesus was a gnostic, his
>>followers were gnostics following the new gnostic leader, and this was
>>widely accepted until the Council of Nicea when Constantine and the Church
>>were grasping for power. Gnosticism would take the power out of the hands
>>of the clergy, so it had to be put down. The Church now glosses over
>>this. They even martyred Valentinus for being a gnostic, then made him a
>>saint.
>>tina
>>
>
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