Re: Of Spirit and Fire (and sex with farm animals)

Man, I thought I posted a lot :).

I don't think John O. is just spouting rhetoric in his post below. I
think it's a reasonable response to the crap that he sees before him. I
would say that "the faith" is characterized by literally hundreds of
millions of people worldwide, most of whom aren't bilking Grandmas or
sodomizing young boys -- most of whom, in fact, are trying to treat
people right, be honest, and care for people. Unfortunately, they're
not on TV and don't get a lot of attention.

Nor do they want it.

So John O's point of view is reasonable, justified, but skewed by skewed
information.

Jim

Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE wrote:

>
>
> All you see is rhetoric and you reply with more of it. Your
> faith in the unfaithful is interesting, since the unfaithful
> fanatics have been known to burn books, terrorize, bilk
> people out of money, poked twelve year olds but this is not
> a faith problem but a people one what you leave out is all
> those incidents where people are restrained from such things
> contrary to their proclivities and all Omlors have is their
> proclivities. This whole litany list is just grist for the
> mill in Omlor world.
>
> Who can wrestle with water much less come to any kind of
> understanding in Omlor world? You state, we reply, you
> reply...all through the Omlor world lens. You hate
> Ashcroft, we reject your world, you reject others and what
> is left. Sadly all that is left is more of the same from
> litany list and soon culminating in a mother of all Rodney
> King style beatings.
> Daniel
> Well, I've read all the posts today and see only two that
> need any response from me.
>
> First, to Luke...
>
> Although you might like to reduce my position to simplistic
> nonsense, your notion that I cannot use the preservation of
> the Bill of Rights and what I happen to feel are simple,
> pleasant human freedoms as an argument in favor of
> crucifying this moron is simply absurd. Nothing in my
> position says any such thing.
>
> John Ashcroft is a slimy, sanctimonious lizard who believes
> the world should be Christianized and that he can rewrite
> the Constitution at will based on nothing more than what you
> naively call his "faith" and then pretend it's in the best
> interests of the American people because he's protecting us
> from religious fanatics like himself who just happen to bow
> and scrape to a different story.
>
> Besides that, he routinely has sex with sheep, and perhaps
> other farm animals as well. And I feel in no way compelled
> or even interested in proving any of this to you. It's all
> easy enough for anyone to see.
>
> And yes, the problem is both power and faith. And with
> dudes like Ashcroft spitting their hatred and paranoia and
> trying to pry his drooling, leering way into my bedroom and
> Christian fanatics burning books and Muslim fanatics flying
> planes into buildings and preachers bilking retirees out of
> the money they need to live and priests poking twelve year
> old boys in the rectory and all of the rest of it, I feel no
> hesitation at all in crying out "Save me from this 'Faith.'"
>
> Thankful for the non-faithful,
>
> --John
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