> > I'm afraid I don't see the connection between what I said and those "mens" > magazines. Its simple. throughout histry, and especially concerning about women/men issues, women have been placed in these pedstal roles that require us to do very and sundry things, and still be perfect. While I don't advoated *that*, what I have seen is that while *some* men say "yes, this is true, womens media is raping htem blindless" these same men have no problem going to their store and buying playboy/hustler what have you. See the contradiction. WHile your telling your gf that she "shouldnt wear makeup" or "she shouldn't worry abot who hshe is, because you love her just the way she is", by buying such mags gives her the illusion that your lying (cos if she was so damn wonderful why would you be buying htese magazines in the first place. > What I was talking about was how those "beauty" magazines give > advice like "Act like you don't know he exists, even if you're really madly > in love with him" etc. I disagree with that kind of tactic. I have this > thing for honesty. hahaha...see my comment below. > Aw heck, Malcs already said this stuff, and better. Well gosh beave, its called reading my mail in order that its sent. And I didn't see Malcs mail till soemthing like 25 messages down. While malcs said it more coherently <stereotype> he's not female</stereotype> and I doubt he can be speaking from expierence such as I did. > Btw, my gf IS 6' tall (which I don't like) and I beg her every day not to > put on any goddam makeup. Can't stand the stuff. First off, what do you have against women 6' tall? I am also 6' tall. Secondly, you *dont* like her being tall, you *dont* like or dont *want* her to read female magazines, and you *dont* like her to wear makeup. So, why are you dating her if you *dont* like so much already? And this is not being honest here bub, hate to break it to you. While *you* maynot like the fact that she wears makeup, she probably wears it because *she* feels that it makes her looks good, and no matter WHAT you say, its HER opinion that matters way and above you. Me thinks you got a control issue going on. If you are so hot for honesty, why don't you let the girl have some rope instead of pulling her leash in so quick. And also, your giving her the EXACT same message that she *isnt* okay by controlling or telling her what she can and can not do. Lisa M. Rabey http://www.simunye.com Coming to a URL near you *************************** A man of words. He makes up in diction what he lacks in dick. -China Blue