this may sound odd, but i actually appreciated it more when i found out it wasn't k.v.'s speech. no disrespect to kurt, but the fact that a basically unknown writer who unintentionally sounded like someone else has now had her work advertised for free and will probably become very well known because of it - i don't know - i was impressed. kinda proud. this had to be a great surprise to her, from what i understand it was not some snaky plot on her part. kudos to mary, beth ps - this proposal/wedding/honeymoon thing is quite amusing - although i agree with rod :) it does seem like an attempt to get a date with a feminist. but hey - it's a great gene pool this bananafish list. pss - brian, i only wish my unfinished and forgotten points were as entertaining as yours. :)