--- AntiUtopia@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/17/99 2:56:04 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, wh14@is9.nyu.edu > writes: I can > imagine Holden wanting to get beyond phony > conventions > convention before they > choose to deviate. > > Joyce told one heck of a good short story before he > tackled Finnegan's > Wake... > > Jim and two more examples: Beethoven learned Mozart and Hyden then he did the late string quartets. Charlie Parker once said something like (quoted or paraphrased in Ross Russell's biography which some people have criticised): first you learn your instrument, then theory, then the music, then you forget all that shit and just play. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com