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From: Marco Pettenello (m.pettenello@libero.it)
Date: Sun Dec 17 2000 - 12:24:00 GMT


There is something methaphysical about the Thin red line. Something
unsubstantial but big, that makes me think that TRL is not a movie like
others, with a clear story, definite carachters, and are they going to win
or are they not.
It seems that the story that is being told there is the story of the
breathing of the world. And war, and violence, and one animal eating another
animal, all these things come together in the breathing of the world. It is
all the same thing. That is the impression I got from the voice off, that
tells the thinking of different carachters. It's absolutely irrational, it
sounds like it's blown in by the wind. Same for the animals you see every
now and then, the plants. The inhabitants of the island. All these different
forms of life seemed to me like they were the same thing. As if it wasn't
much the story of one carachter or the other, but just one big breath.
The part with the Japanese soldiers I thought it was great too.
The cameos of famous actors, for what I happened to hear, where not intented
to be that short in the beginning. For what I understood, they were supposed
to be much longer and were finally cut during the editing. I quite liked
this thing, as it gave me the impression that the fact of one actor being
famous or not was much less important than the story that was being told in
the movie.
Excuse me for being complicated, but I never find it easy to explain my
feelings about movies. I actually feel like writing more about the Thin red
line, but I don't want to exagerate.

Antonioni's movie I haven't seen it. But I have seen him talk in television
and he actually seemed way to hold to know what he's doing anymore. It's a
pity but that's what I thought. I think Al di là delle nuvole (Beyond the
clouds) must be more the work of someone else (his assistants, wife,
collaborators, I don't know who) than the work of Antonioni. I haven't seen
it though.

What does a. c. stand for?

Marco

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>A: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>Oggetto: Re: <nessun oggetto>
>Data: Dom, 17 dic 2000 5:42
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> to marco-
>
> i am interested to know what you liked about "the thin red line." the only
> part which i thought was good, actually i thought it exceptional, was when
> the americans finally made it to the japanese camp, and you saw how
> desperate the japanese had become by that time, how absolutely ragged their
> men and equipment were, and how horrified they were of the americans,
> exactly as horrified as the americans were of them. otherwise i thought the
> movie lacked direction and was too long. the cameos were ridiculous, it
> seemed at times as if they were written in at the last minute just so the
> actor (especially george clooney's scene) could have the cameo. but i have
> harbored a suspicion that there was something that i had missed or
> underestimated about the film, but i'm not sure what.
>
> also i am interested in the michelangelo antonioni film "par-dela les
> nuages/beyond the clouds," and i was wondering if you (or anyone else here)
> had seen it, and what you thought of it.
>
> andy
> a.c.
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