word wrap ski frog


Subject: word wrap ski frog
ZazieZazie@hetnet.nl
Date: Fri Dec 14 2001 - 08:33:22 GMT


eeeh, sorry, but I had difficulties read skifrogs message as well, maybe he/she could do something about it?
Just a suggestion ...

Zazie

-----Original Message-----
From: "owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org" <owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org> on behalf of "Jim Rovira" <jrovira@drew.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:02 PM
To: "bananafish@roughdraft.org" <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
Subject: Re: here goes...

First off, the word wrap problem was MINE and not yours. EESH. I was
checking e-mail on a different computer and didn't check the
settings...sorry.

Anyway, I have a bit of a different opinion of Joanie's husband. I think
he did love her very much, and paid very close attention to her, and that
the observations he makes are important precisely because they're about
small and unimportant things. That's a sign he's paying attention. I
think he knew exactly what color her eyes were, but perhaps thought
something else about them was more important (if seashells isn't somehow a
reference to color -- my ex-wife had eyes that tended to change color with
what she was wearing, they varied from gray to light brown, so Joanie may
have had similar eyes). I think...and this fits in well with the tensions
in some of Salinger's other fiction...that he couldn't live up to her
"standards" in some way.
His response to her judgment tended to drive her away rather than draw her
near, because he felt plagued by the thought of his inadequacy, as it
reinforced his already low self esteem -- which was doubly reinforced by
her infidelity. The reader is in the position of Lee, seeing this nearly
destroyed soul and feeling a sense of complicity in its destruction. When
I felt I finally understood most of what was going on (and it took awhile),
I was overwhelmed by how pathetic Joanie's husband was...and how selfish
Joanie was...but understood why both were responding as they were.

I don't think a better story about adultery has been written.

Jim

SkiFrog717@aol.com wrote:
>
> i know i'm probably taking this too far but it's just weird about the seashell eye thing.. but what i'm sticking with now is that it definitely is joanie, and the husband, in the midst of saying the things he likes about his wife, which are only a few and are pretty vague(thats not the word i'm looking for, im trying to say the things he mentions are not important? kind of insignificant, ahh this is frustrating there's a really good word i just cant think of it) he jsut doesn't appreciate her, and it woudln't surprise me if he got her eye color wrong- this is why i'm goign with he was mistaken in her eye color. so, there's where i stand. i want to talk about some other stories too but i think i'll write a separate email when i decide what's next- jess
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