Sayeth Patti: .I think, like Holden, Antolini has been >there, but has been forced to compromise himself in order to survive... I'm >not repulsed by Antolini's gesture...maybe sympathetic and a little >frightened at the desperateness of the gesture...and I think that it's that >desperateness that freaks Holden out.. Yes yes yes...that's exactly what I was trying to articulate, and I couldn't quite get it: Antolini has been forced to compromise himself... I think if Holden survives to become an adult, he will become Antolini. I honestly think that Antolini a glimpse of Holden's future... I also agree that Holden was terrified by Antolini's desparation, and that's what scared him off. I think he must have all at once glimpsed himself, his own future, and his own desparation in Antolini's gesture. I also think that Holden has some feelings for Mr. Antolini--I mean, of course he has feelings for him, but I think it stems beyond admiration to a sort of idealization--in the same way that Holden has idealized childhood--and I think Antolini's desparation shattered that idealization. The reason I say that Holden has deeper feelings--and not necessarily homosexual, or romantic, or whatever--is because Holden admired Mr. Antolini most for covering up poor James Castle with his coat...and at another point earlier in the novel, Holden says he'd jump out of a window if he thought someone would cover him up when he hit the ground. Maybe Holden is jealous of James Castle--for being brave, for being dead, and for earning Mr. Antolini's protection...(I know I'm treading dangerous waters here.) All of this is still very confusing to me, and after I was thinking that Mr. Antolini is a portrayal of Holden twenty years later, I got to thinking that maybe old Spencer is a portrayal of Holden sixty or so years later... I know it's crazy, and I can't quite expound on my logic right now...since there's no logic involved. Just another thought. Brendan Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com