Re: dogma protests

AntiUtopia@aol.com
Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:29:10 -0500 (EST)

I didn't make the original comments, but I want to reply to this:

<< I ask, because it looks like you are trying to say that it is not known=20
 whether now living Afro-Americans have ancestors that were slaves or not.>>

My impression was that the original post affirmed that Afro Americans living=
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today did not themselves suffer slavery.  I don't think anyone would affirm=20
the above comment, but you never know...
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<< And that the white majority in power is not historically responsible for=20
 that slavery.>>

Depends on what you mean by "not historically responsible."  If you mean,=20
"Did not themselves keep slaves," of course not.  The "white majority" (neve=
r=20
mind that this includes Presbyterians of English descent, both Irish and=20
Italian Catholics, Jews -- all groups so diametrically opposed to one anothe=
r=20
historically that's it's a terrible misnomer to call them all "white.") that=
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is now in power didn't themselves hold slaves, no. =20

But I would agree that they (we? -- I'm Puerto Rican -- and us PRs are a=20
mixture of Spaniard, African and Indian...am I "white."  It's reductive and=20
racist to call non-blacks "whites") are responsible for fixing the way the=20
past still exists in the present...=20
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<<But I hope I=E2=80=99m reading you wrongly.
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 That you=E2=80=99re really saying something to the effect that there must b=
e a=20
 limitation to the use of the =E2=80=98white guilt=E2=80=99 argument. That n=
ot every colored=20
 person is an ancestor to a slave, and even if they were it is history, we=20
 now have such an equal society there really is no need historic arguments a=
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 all.
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 I would disagree with a lot of that second reading as well. But I could at=20
 least understand it.
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 /TLM >>

Yeah, I think it's a mistake to minimize the extent of racism in our society=
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today. =20

But it's a mistake to exaggerate it as well.

Jim