<<So the thing to do is not complain that there's no crusades to fight anymore. The best thing to do is work now to make the next one unnecessary. THAT'S a good life's work, let me tell you...>> This brings my mind to that quote by Wilhelm Stekel in CITR... "The mark or the immature..." Ya'll know what I'm talking about. I guess we're not so off topic after all, as you Jim are giving the same advice that Mr. Antolini gave Holden. Eric